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05:52 Topic for #evergreen is now Welcome to the #evergreen library system channel! | We are publicly logged. | Large pastes at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org
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10:08 kmlussier @later tell Dyrcona Yes, I did get overrides when renewing lost and claims returned. The error on lost items came up after the overrides. Claims returned seemed to work.
10:08 pinesol_green kmlussier: The operation succeeded.
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10:58 Dyrcona So, do I have any laters?
10:59 Dyrcona I thought so: both on having a later and what the later said.
11:00 Dyrcona I think I'll build a new vm just to clean everything up.
11:12 Dyrcona Schon vergressen! I wish I could remember that little bit of SQL that tsbere and I were talking about adding to the restore process.
11:13 Dyrcona typos...
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12:55 * Dyrcona loves the smell of fresh VMs in the afternoon.
13:29 Dyrcona Grr. Forgot about the hazards of using indexdata's deb repo....
13:30 Dyrcona Just have to install yaz5-dev or yaz4-dev before doing Evergreen's Makefile.install.
13:31 Dyrcona Or not.
13:31 Dyrcona Have to remove the dependency on yaz-dev
13:33 Dyrcona Or not....
13:34 Dyrcona Crap. Gonna have to not use indexdata's repo during installation, so z39.50 will be busted (Ubuntu 12.04).
13:37 * Dyrcona once again threatens to build a Linux from Scratch distro just for Evergreen.
13:52 * Dyrcona hates missing steps....
14:01 Dyrcona And, it works!
14:12 kmlussier Dyrcona: Did your fresh vm smell like victory?
14:28 * Dyrcona doesn't know what victory smells like.
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15:25 bshum Oh, they added a saucy dist repo for indexdata.  *switches to that*
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16:03 Dyrcona I think whatever caused the override to go away is not in my code.
16:04 Dyrcona I get a FIX ME error in master when trying to renew a lost circulation.
16:04 kmlussier Really? Is it happening on a clean master?
16:05 Dyrcona The only change I made was to alter the search_action_circulation call in do_renew so it would find the LOST circulation.
16:06 Dyrcona Yep. I made my last development branch on the 24th and it worked then, but after rebasing with master later was when it started failing.
16:09 kmlussier Hmmmm...master hasn't seen many changes since the 24th. Odd.
16:11 Dyrcona kmlussier: I made my branch early on the 24th and there were changes later that day, IIRC.
16:12 Dyrcona I'll see what I can figure out.
16:14 * Dyrcona wishes he knew how to sort whatchanged output by commit date and not the author date.
16:15 bshum 1/24 or 12/24?
16:16 Dyrcona 1/24
16:17 Dyrcona I used --since 2014-01-21 which seemed to do what I wanted.
16:17 Dyrcona And nothing looks like it would have affected this.
16:18 bshum Hmm
16:20 Dyrcona Only thing that comes close is e42e9b047c91c21d34db19a0ff7afd7ebcddf367
16:20 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] Add new option for max/min lost item pricing - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=e42e9b0>
16:20 bshum That's the only thing I was thinking of too.
16:20 bshum But I didn't get deeper into it yet.
16:21 Dyrcona That was committed on the 22nd, though, so should have been in my branch that I loaded on the 24th, which we don't think had this problem.
16:21 Dyrcona I'm going to paste a patch based on the diff of the change that I made.
16:24 pastebot "Dyrcona" at 64.57.241.14 pasted "git diff db7b99e8ccba2ebf81a345157de5a90ba5387626" (25 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/10
16:24 pinesol_green [evergreen|Ben Shum] Revert "Eliminate an annoying and useless warning in the JavaScript Console." - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=db7b99e>
16:24 Dyrcona pinesol_green is working a little too hard on that one. :)
16:24 pinesol_green Dyrcona: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
16:24 pinesol_green Dyrcona: Message root @ server God....Universe going down for reboot....
16:26 Dyrcona So that change stops the ACTION_CIRCULATION_NOT_FOUND message from popping up.
16:27 Dyrcona We get to somewhere after do_checkin in the renewal and then get a FIX ME instead of an override.
16:41 Dyrcona Well, this is annoying: inexplicable changes in behavior.
16:47 Dyrcona I would be interested to know if anyone else gets the same results in master.
16:47 bshum Dyrcona: I can try giving it a whirl.  What behavior am I looking for again?
16:48 Dyrcona bshum: When you try to renew a lost item, after applying the above patch, you are supposed to get a dialog asking if you want to force action.
16:48 Dyrcona Instead, I'm getting a FIX ME followed by another FIX ME.
16:51 Dyrcona I was going to say that kmlussier and I both saw the force action dialog before, but I'm less certain of that, now.
16:51 Dyrcona After looking through my email, I see she mentions getting it on a different test.
16:52 Dyrcona I don't see her mentioning on testing renewal of a lost item, but I thought I had seen it.
16:52 Dyrcona I now believe I was mistaken.
16:52 bshum Renewing a lost item should generate some sort of stupid error I thought.
16:52 Dyrcona The patch I pasted above gets rid of it.
16:53 bshum Or, I see, you're fixing it
16:53 bshum or trying to
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16:53 Dyrcona Now, you get a different stupid error, but is should be a force action, instead.
16:53 kmlussier I'm almost certain I saw it. I suppose it's possible I confused it with the other test, but I really thought I saw it.
16:53 Dyrcona s/is/it/
16:53 Dyrcona kmlussier: I'm not saying we didn't see it. I'm just not certain at this point.
16:54 kmlussier However, it is unusual for me not to mention seeing the override when I reported the bug.
16:54 kmlussier But does your Fixme error match the error I sent along to you?
16:54 bshum What was the expected original behavior supposed to be?
16:54 Dyrcona kmlussier: Yes it does.
16:54 * bshum is not sure he understands what you two are talking about anymore
16:54 Dyrcona bshum: I don't know, have a look at lp638509.
16:55 Dyrcona bug 638509
16:55 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 638509 in Evergreen "renewing lost items fails unintuitively" (affected: 5, heat: 26) [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/638509 - Assigned to Jason Stephenson (jstephenson)
16:55 bshum Yeah I was just checking that out.  What's this about an override?
16:55 Dyrcona Here's what I've been asked to do: Make it so a lost item can be renewed if the person doing the renewal has the proper permissions.
16:56 Dyrcona I expected that instead of a fix me, circulation would just throw up a force action.
16:56 kmlussier bshum: So, with the code, in my memory (perhaps faulty), when I tried to renew a lost item, it came up with an override telling me that the item was lost.
16:57 kmlussier In most cases, it also told me that the patron's bills exceeded the allowable amount to renew.
16:57 Dyrcona Well, it should mention three events: COPY_NOT_AVAILABLE, COPY_STATUS_LOST, PATRON_EXCEEDS_MAX_FINES.
16:57 kmlussier Which is why I was so certain I saw it. Because I remember seeing it and thinking that I should pay the lost bill ahead of time to see if it changed the behavior.
16:58 Dyrcona Those three should be overridable if the user has the .override permission.
16:58 * kmlussier used to be more diligent about capturing screenshots during testing. :(
16:58 Dyrcona I think I am just going to have to tinker with the renewal code until it works.
16:59 bshum Well, at least back in 2011 when I had the original ticket in our helpdesk, they only mention the ACTION_CIRCULATION_NOT_FOUND error
16:59 bshum Nothing about overrides
16:59 kmlussier bshum: Yes, that's right. The overrides came with the code I'm testing.
16:59 bshum Oh
16:59 bshum Well then!
16:59 bshum :)
16:59 * bshum goes back to being slightly less confused now.
17:00 * bshum should just be quiet and let you guys do your thing
17:01 Dyrcona bshum: You realize I've made a change to get past the ACTION_CIRCULATION_NOT_FOUND, right?
17:01 * Dyrcona points at paste 10 above.
17:02 bshum Dyrcona: I hadn't gotten to the paste yet.  I was trying to figure out what the "broken" behavior was before I applied a proposed fix to learn what else it breaks.
17:02 bshum I was just going to try adding it to our master test server next.
17:03 bshum Just refamiliarizing myself with what's going on.  2011/2012 seems like forever ago.
17:03 Dyrcona ok
17:10 bshum Well I got a network error as it tried to find the billing to deal with voiding the lost.  But then yeah I got the two FIXMEs back to back after that.
17:10 Dyrcona Thanks.
17:11 Dyrcona I'll have to figure out what needs changing so the force action dialog comes up.
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17:15 Dyrcona But not tonight.
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18:28 schatz Does anyone know of a method to create & populate public Bookbags? Pardon my ignorance here, not too familiar with Evergreen.
18:34 bshum schatz: I imagine it'll be quiet tonight.  It's the weekend and also the US SuperBowl tonight.
18:35 bshum schatz: That said, creating public bookbags seems to me like you would just create a bookbag like normal and then share it.
18:35 bshum Though nowadays they're called lists.
18:38 schatz Ah yes, SuperBowl, almost forgot
18:40 schatz bshum: clarification: a way to automate their creation and population with some bibids
18:41 bshum schatz: That's kind of what I was suspecting you meant to ask.
18:41 schatz Yup :)
18:41 bshum schatz: Generally speaking, when faced with that sort of problem, I would probably just use SQL to insert some extra entries.
18:41 bshum That said, if you're a staff member, you can use the staff client to access a bookbag via the record buckets
18:42 bshum The ID of a bookbag should be usable to retrieve a bookbag owned by the staff account or such.
18:42 bshum From there, you could use the bucket interface to manage adding/removing bib ids from a given list.
18:46 schatz bshum: Thanks, I'll look into the SQL approach
18:46 bshum schatz: I might recommend writing to the general mailing list an email describing what you're trying to do.  Maybe some other staff users / systems folk have better ideas for you to share.
18:46 schatz Not a staff member per se but trying to improve a script that builds query URLs with a ton of bibIDs, ends up with too many levels of recursion.
18:47 schatz bshum: gotcha, I'll try there next
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