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10:05 bshum Pondering bug 838296 again today.
10:05 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 838296 in Evergreen "Seperate the MarkItemLost reactors from running with the rest of the daily triggers. " (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Wishlist,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/838296
10:05 bshum Looks like we had our utility server exhaust all its memory and swap overnight dealing with A/T events.
10:06 bshum As I read that though, I'm wondering about the granularity='daily' portion of the upgrade action to break up the triggers.  In the stock DB, I don't see granularity being defined, so it seems like it won't affect anything running the upgrade script.
10:08 bshum So I guess the question is two-fold:  1) should granularity be assigned by default in the stock DB, and 2) should the bug be updated to reflect that?
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10:54 bshum Hmm
10:55 bshum When defining granularity, how do we know the differences between A/T events that need to have granularity defined (or they won't run if we switch to granularity based crontab)
10:55 bshum vs. stuff that should automatically happen
10:55 bshum i.e. things that go straight to pending and do not need to be processed
10:56 bshum I'm assuming things like hold notifications don't need granularity or process-hooks to go to pending.
10:56 bshum But maybe I'm assuming wrongly.
10:56 * bshum goes to look at the hooks
10:59 bshum Hmm, lost.auto seems to get called at the end of the MarkItemLost reactor, so that probably can get skipped I think
11:08 bshum Hmm, maybe we need a mix of granularity ones for hooks based on checkout.due
11:08 bshum But then also do other hooks differently
11:08 bshum hold_request.shelf_expires_soon maybe
11:16 bshum Hmm, based on the event entries for those triggers
11:16 bshum It seems like those would also need to be run with process-hooks
11:39 * bshum requeues everything that broke and hopes his server doesn't explode again
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11:52 jeff @monologue bshum
11:52 pinesol_green jeff: (monologue [<channel>]) -- Returns the number of consecutive lines you've sent in <channel> without being interrupted by someone else (i.e. how long your current 'monologue' is). <channel> is only necessary if the message isn't sent in the channel itself.
11:53 jeff heh.
11:53 bshum @monologue #evergreen
11:53 pinesol_green bshum: Your current monologue is at least 1 line long.
11:53 bshum Funny
11:56 bshum @hate action triggers
11:56 pinesol_green bshum: But bshum already hates action triggers!
11:56 bshum Figures
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12:23 bshum remingtron: There is still a blog on the wordpress site, it's at http://evergreen-ils.org/communicate/blog/
12:23 kmlussier remingtron, bshum: I just updated the link on the communicate page.
12:23 bshum Though personally, the page you linked to is one targeted for "needs work" basically to refactor it to be more helpful
12:24 bshum It was a carry over from the old site
12:24 jeff heh. saw my comment on bug 1167541 and mis-read launchpad's interface as saying comment "#3". thought for a moment that i had commented on the wrong bug. :-)
12:24 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1167541 in Evergreen "Pickup library defaults to Home OU of staff, instead of patron when placing holds" (affected: 8, heat: 44) [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1167541 - Assigned to Jeff Godin (jgodin)
12:25 kmlussier remingtron: I think dbs is the only person who can update the Planet Evergreen link.
12:26 bshum kmlussier: That's correct, only dbs is the admin for Planet Evergreen as far as I'm aware.
12:27 bshum kmlussier: http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/do​ku.php?id=website_administration
12:28 kmlussier bshum++
12:37 eeevil bshum: I'm not actually here, but ... only passive hooks require process_hooks to bring their events into existence. active (as opposed to passive, not the inverse of inactive) hooks are for things that actively happen -- a circ, someone prints something, another A/T event injects one of that type, etc
12:40 bshum eeevil++ # thanks, that makes much better sense now.  And I can see which are passive/active via the hooks table.
12:40 bshum yay!
12:41 bshum So by fortunate process of elimination, I'd already put granularity on all the event defs that needed it based on passive hooks.
12:41 bshum *whew*
12:44 eeevil looks like some more of the content from http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku​.php?id=evergreen-user:action_trigger might be useful in the DIG docs
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