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11:05 bshum senator: I didn't backport bug 1233340 because when I reported the issue, I was only aware of it being unhappy in master/2.5.  I think dbwells must have added backport targets after I had done my dance with master.
11:05 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1233340 in Evergreen 2.4 "2.5 serials receiving error" (affected: 2, heat: 12) [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1233340
11:05 bshum senator++
11:06 senator cool. thanks for testing and all in the first place
11:06 bshum As far as milestones go though
11:06 bshum I think I'll go ahead and make new ones for you if you don't think the maintainers will repackage.
11:07 bshum Because otherwise, it could easily get lost in shuffles
11:07 * senator pings them about it real quick
11:07 bshum Okay, I'll wait a bit then
11:07 dbwells Yeah, I looked at it, and really couldn't remember.  It seems odd that the series targetting doesn't show up in any of the listed change history.  Sorry if I dropped the ball on it.
11:08 senator no problem. didn't mean to make it a blame-y thing for anybody, just wanted to be sure i still have the right idea of what the test/merge/backport practice is
11:09 eeevil I have something that I'd like to get into 2.4 sooner rather than later as well, and since we haven't updated the downloads page, or committed the tag versions, we could announce a delay and release early next week.
11:11 bshum Sounds good to me.
11:11 eeevil wrapping is a pain, but waiting another month on known bugs is worse
11:11 berick just tell me what to do..
11:45 * dbs hears berick saying "just tell me what to do..." in a Timberlake-esque TKO voice
11:50 jeff while i do still have a bit of "hear everyone's irc statements in their own voice in my head" left over from the hack-a-way and hangouts, i have not heard that song enough to quite have the same issue as dbs.
11:50 jeff [this is good]
11:53 csharp @autotune berick
11:53 pinesol_green csharp: Have you tried turning it off and back on again?
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11:59 eeevil dbwells / bshum / senator: how about, you folks have until ... I'll call it monday night ... to commit what you want. berick: you cool with recutting on tuesday?
12:03 * berick holds hand to ear, sings, "that's coooool with meeeeeee"
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12:08 csharp berick++
12:08 * csharp is sure someone somewhere uses an autotuned screenreader for IRC
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12:11 senator ha! netWORK or SERver FAILure / PLEASE check YOUR inTERnet CONnecTION ...
12:11 senator csharp++
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12:16 csharp haha
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12:37 frank_____ Hello Everybody, I'd want to know if is possible show in tpac code html exactly as it is inserted in Marc, I mean, I want to add an =866 tag with the value <perdido> but when I added it, it is saved, but the value is nos showed on opac
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13:01 tsbere frank_____: I have no idea what it is you are attempting to do. Raw HTML in MARC sounds freaky. Converting < and > to &lt; and &gt; sounds more reasonable, and I wouldn't be surprised if that already happens (not checking right now)
13:03 frank_____ The cat people want to add the value "<perdido>" to a marc tag, but it can't be displayed by the explorer because it is interpretered as html tag code right?
13:06 bshum "perdido" meaning "lost" ?
13:06 frank_____ yes
13:08 bshum @marc 866
13:08 pinesol_green bshum: [Described in full under field 866 in the MARC 21 Concise Format for Holdings Data.] (Repeatable) []
13:09 bshum Hmm
13:09 bshum So these are lost copies that you don't want to be listed as actual copies?
13:10 * bshum isn't sure why that's being added straight to MARC and not reflected as a regular copy that's marked with a status of lost
13:10 frank_____ So isn't necesary add the "<lost>" value to the 866 tag right?
13:10 bshum Also, what code did you use to add 866 as a displayed field in the catalog?  (suspects it would have to be some combination of misc_util.tt2 and/or others
13:11 frank_____ It is displayed as an mfhd record in Issues Held
13:12 bshum Ah, serials stuff, I see.
13:12 * bshum runs far, far away to the furthest he can away from serials stuff.
13:14 eeevil frank_____: short answer, yes. use the html filter in TT
13:17 hopkinsju Is there any sort of setting or configuration about who "owns" a bib as it relates to hold policies? We have a library that has a limit of 50 holds, and a consortial rule limiting to 10. In the case that the patron has more than 10 holds they are still able to place holds on bibs where their home library has at least 1 item attached.
13:17 hopkinsju They are not able to place holds on bibs where their home library does not have any items on that bib.
13:17 hopkinsju So it seems that for hold policy configuration, "owning library" means "any libraries with items on the bib"
13:19 hopkinsju Which is odd. Patrons can place holds on bibs where their library owns a copy, but if it's not available, it will go ahead and target a copy from another library. This makes for very inconsistent hold policy enforcement and confused users.
13:20 hopkinsju With my current understanding, I've come to the conclusion that such a policy limiting "consortial holds" is not possible.
13:21 eeevil hopkinsju: that definition of "owning library" is incorrect.  it means the owning_lib field on the call number of attached copies.  that can be used instead of the home library of the copy, which is the circ_lib on the copy itself
13:22 eeevil hopkinsju: you probably want to look into the available copy ratio
13:28 eeevil bshum / dbwells / others: anything you want to add to https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/781008 ? tl;dr: we need backport 0802, but with a new number and a placeholder in 2.5 and master
13:28 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 781008 in Evergreen 2.4 "Subfields in Manage authorities not alphabetized" (affected: 3, heat: 24) [Undecided,New]
13:29 bshum A new number?
13:29 bshum Is 0802 already in the backports?
13:32 eeevil bshum: it's not, but I'm afeared of release the process and filling in holes between point releases
13:35 bshum I'm not sure I understand all the surrounding issues with that to see where the problem lies with using the same number in backports if there isn't a conflict.
13:36 bshum So I'll wait for some others to weigh in
13:37 bshum Sorry :\
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13:50 rfrasur Never underestimate the awesomeness of a good extension officer.
13:57 jcamins rfrasur: Agricultural Extension?
13:57 rfrasur yep
13:57 rfrasur oh...sorry.  I live in Indiana.  Everything is agricultural.
13:58 bshum "...go out and hear the corn grow" ?
13:58 rfrasur yes.  Well, not right now.
13:58 rfrasur unless it's in a hothouse
13:59 rfrasur I once saw on T.V. that there's more than corn in Indiana.  It was a nice commercial and vaguely false advertisement.
13:59 jcamins lol
14:00 jcamins My best friend growing up moved to Indiana. It was kind of astonishing how little there was around them when I visited.
14:00 rfrasur it's very...
14:00 rfrasur I'm not sure the right word.
14:01 rfrasur slow
14:01 rfrasur or...paced.  I dunno.  enforced calm?
14:06 dbwells eeevil: Re: bug 781008, I've got no issues with your plan.  Since the upgrade only replaces functions anyway, we could even just put it in master a second time with basically no penalty.
14:06 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 781008 in Evergreen 2.4 "Subfields in Manage authorities not alphabetized" (affected: 3, heat: 24) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/781008
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14:11 eeevil true enough!
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14:46 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Wells] Improve facet styling - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=1ac376b>
14:48 bshum Interesting.  mceraso just hit on the fact that if you literally follow the commands for git dev instructions in the README, it says to get and extract the dojo tarball after make install, but if you don't chown the /openils dirs first (in the next step), then the commands fail.
14:48 bshum Cause the /openils dir, etc. are still owned by root
14:49 bshum That's a fun one
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14:55 jeff me, i worked around that by forgetting to install dojo until after i was otherwise done. ;-)
14:57 tsbere jeff: Ditto that here. <_<
14:57 bshum jeff: Sounds like what I end up doing every time I start from scratch too :)
14:57 jeff scipted_installs++
15:05 bshum berick: For the purposes of testing new bug 1254146 and if we already had an opac entry in actor.org_unit_custom_tree (ours is set to false) what should we expect to see or not see?
15:05 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1254146 in Evergreen 2.4 "Custom org tree with no org units causes TPAC server error" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1254146
15:05 bshum I'm firing up a test VM to try with a blank system
15:06 berick bshum: if you have a non-active tree or a tree with entries, the bug will not manifest
15:06 bshum berick: Gotcha.
15:06 bshum So really I'll test with a clean system then.
15:07 berick bshum++
15:07 bshum Ah right... forgot I had to reload apache to see it take effect
15:07 bshum Yep, okay
15:09 bshum Works so far
15:09 bshum I'll push it in
15:09 bshum berick++
15:10 berick word
15:13 pinesol_green [evergreen|Bill Erickson] LP#1254146 gracefully handle custom trees sans entries - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=01b315c>
15:18 bshum dbs / paxed : tried working on https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1205190 but it definitely doesn't apply cleanly given all the changes to CSS with the mobile and other changes.  Going to mark incomplete for now and we need to do a new rebase.
15:18 pinesol_green Launchpad bug 1205190 in Evergreen "Firefox dislikes some TPAC stylesheet elements" (affected: 2, heat: 12) [Medium,Confirmed]
15:19 bshum I'll try and ponder that when I can get some more eyes on it.
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15:43 pinesol_green [evergreen|Dan Scott] Fix copy_table HTML markup errors - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=​Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=6ada117>
16:27 smyers_ has anyone delt with an error message that looks like this? http://pastebin.com/dPCrj7DH
16:27 smyers_ I am not getting anything in the osrfsys.log
16:28 smyers_ plus when I run srfsh directly I can run that exact method and get results no problem
16:40 mmorgan smyers_: When do you get this error? Just trying to login?
16:44 eeevil smyers_: my gut says you have a setting (or settings) whose value should be JSON but is not. the most common way to get something like that is to edit directly in the db, instead of using the staff client
17:12 smyers_ mmorgan: only on staff client login, opac login works
17:13 smyers_ eeevil: if it was settings shouldn't I get an error when I make the call through srfsh?
17:17 mmorgan smyers_: looks like it is complaining about an org unit setting. Not that I really know what I'm talking about. Gotta run. Good weekend all!
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17:17 smyers_ mceraso: thanks for looking
17:18 jeff smyers_: take the output you receive from srfsh and try to feed it as input to json_xs or a similar tool which will complain if it is invalid json.
17:23 smyers_ jeff: the output pases jsonlint.com
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