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Dyrcona |
My phone can read books to me. It will be interesting to hear what the voice does with the code snippets in the programming-related titles. |
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| 09:08 |
* Dyrcona |
wishes there were a synthesized version of Alistair Cooke's voice. |
| 09:10 |
* csharp |
likes George Guidall as a reader |
| 09:12 |
Dyrcona |
I'm using FBReader and the Hyperionics (sp?) Text to Speech plugin. |
| 09:13 |
krvmga |
has anyone run across a problem with IE11 where format filters in advanced search show up as a blank box? |
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| 09:20 |
csharp |
krvmga: bear with me while I upgrade IE in my windows VM and I'll test |
| 09:20 |
csharp |
oh and |
| 09:20 |
csharp |
ie-- |
| 09:20 |
csharp |
@karma |
| 09:20 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: Highest karma: "dbs" (742), "bshum" (609), and "tsbere" (561). Lowest karma: "ie" (-49), "^" (-26), and "----------------------------------" (-18). You (csharp) are ranked 12 out of 2060. |
| 09:20 |
csharp |
ie-- |
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csharp |
@karma ie |
| 09:20 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: Karma for "ie" has been increased 0 times and decreased 50 times for a total karma of -50. |
| 09:20 |
rfrasur |
ie-- |
| 09:23 |
Dyrcona |
@karma ie |
| 09:23 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: Karma for "ie" has been increased 0 times and decreased 51 times for a total karma of -51. |
| 09:27 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl: is there somewhere to look at past daily reconciliations? |
| 09:28 |
csharp |
krvmga: http://picpaste.com/ie11-advanced-search-crkHqcF3.png - a screenshot of our advanced search (2.3.6) in IE11 |
| 09:28 |
csharp |
I don't see anything missing |
| 09:30 |
krvmga |
csharp: yes, this is the same experience that i had when i tested it. |
| 09:30 |
krvmga |
csharp: a library contacted me and told me the blank box happened to them. i was not able to duplicate the error. |
| 09:31 |
krvmga |
csharp: they sent me a screenshot. everything was as you'd expect except the format filter box was blank. |
| 09:31 |
Dyrcona |
@xkcd 583 |
| 09:31 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: CNR: http://xkcd.com/583 |
| 09:32 |
jboyer-isl |
rfrausr: Not really. I can get older info if you need it, though. |
| 09:33 |
rfrasur |
Hmm, okay. Is there the possibility of an email notification? |
| 09:33 |
csharp |
Dyrcona++ |
| 09:34 |
csharp |
xkcd++ |
| 09:34 |
rfrasur |
heh |
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| 09:34 |
csharp |
krvmga: may be a cache issue? my IE is about as pristine as you can get, being only used to download Firefox ;-) |
| 09:35 |
jboyer-isl |
It hasn't been 30 days yet, every report you need should still be available. What are you running into? |
| 09:35 |
rfrasur |
poor workflows |
| 09:36 |
rfrasur |
I don't actually log into the staff client every morning, so I don't think to always check the reconciliation report |
| 09:36 |
rfrasur |
it's okay. I just need to figure out a way to remind myself. Was just double checking that those weren't options. |
| 09:37 |
jboyer-isl |
I suppose you could set up a repeating reminder in Google Calendar, that can email you each morning. |
| 09:38 |
rfrasur |
hmm, I could. I suspect there are several ways to do it. Just a matter of picking one that I won't eventually tune out. |
| 09:38 |
* rfrasur |
will figure it out. |
| 09:38 |
rfrasur |
ty |
| 09:38 |
jboyer-isl |
I suppose you could put "Or we might fail an audit!" in the description, not likely to tune that out. :D |
| 09:38 |
krvmga |
csharp: i'll see about that. i don't really use ie unless i'm forced to. |
| 09:39 |
csharp |
krvmga++ |
| 09:40 |
rfrasur |
meh - I suspect. Though if it's that important, I think there need to be more ways other than "call Jason" to get information from the past 30 days. |
| 09:41 |
jboyer-isl |
As long as you pay the full invoice each quarter you won't actually fail an audit, that's a bit over-simplified. But I think there's some accounting rule about depositing money taken in within 24 hours? Not entirely clear on that, but the auditor could potentially be grumpy about that. |
| 09:42 |
rfrasur |
We have to deposit all money on a daily basis (although we don't when the bank is closed since we use the counter). |
| 09:42 |
jboyer-isl |
Also, it's not exactly "30 days," it's the "last 30 days in which payments were taken for other systems" which could potentially be 30 days, or 300. |
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| 09:43 |
rfrasur |
Hmm, oh. So, we could potentially (in reality, in our case) have no reports yet. |
| 09:43 |
rfrasur |
It's 30 reports rather than 30 days. |
| 09:43 |
jboyer-isl |
Yes. That's why I had to add the "Last updated XXXXX" to the bottom of the page. |
| 09:44 |
rfrasur |
But it still updates whether or not there's anything to report, right? |
| 09:44 |
rfrasur |
if only to say "nothing to report" |
| 09:45 |
jboyer-isl |
The date does, yes. It should always say 3:something in the morning of the current day, or I need to do something to catch it up. |
| 09:45 |
rfrasur |
it's 3:16 from today. You're good. |
| 09:46 |
krvmga |
ok, i just had a second report of format filters not showing up in basic or advanced search, both in the public opac and in the staff client. |
| 09:46 |
krvmga |
i think i need to check my config.tt2 files |
| 09:46 |
rfrasur |
reports-- |
| 09:46 |
rfrasur |
@hate reports |
| 09:46 |
pinesol_green |
rfrasur: But rfrasur already hates reports! |
| 09:46 |
csharp |
krvmga: what URL? |
| 09:47 |
krvmga |
http://bark.cwmars.org |
| 09:47 |
krvmga |
just so you know, i cannot duplicate the problem here. |
| 09:47 |
jeff |
have you toggled compatibility view in IE? i'm guessing that IE11 still has that. |
| 09:47 |
krvmga |
everything is working as expected for me |
| 09:47 |
csharp |
yeah - same here |
| 09:47 |
krvmga |
jeff: interesting thought. checking. |
| 09:47 |
jeff |
but it can make a major difference if it's set incorrectly (on when should be off, off when should be on, etc) |
| 09:51 |
jeff |
if the screen shot in question included the address bar, you can probably see the indicator -- though it's gotten more difficult to read in recent versions, iirc. |
| 09:51 |
krvmga |
jeff: i just tested with compatibility mode on and off and it didn't make a noticeable difference |
| 09:52 |
krvmga |
jeff: plus, if it's not showing up in the staff client, isn't that mozilla-based? |
| 09:52 |
jeff |
you can probably safely rule that one out, then. |
| 09:52 |
jeff |
krvmga: i don't follow your last inquiry. |
| 09:52 |
krvmga |
jeff: the format filters aren't displaying in search in the staff client either for them |
| 09:52 |
jeff |
krvmga: ah, i missed your earlier statement that they were not showing in the staff client, either. |
| 09:53 |
jeff |
yeah, ie compatibility view isn't going to affect the staff client. |
| 09:53 |
bshum |
Sounds like a brick problem. |
| 09:53 |
krvmga |
bshum: that's what i'm checking now. |
| 09:54 |
csharp |
yeah - if it's intermittent |
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| 09:57 |
* bshum |
generally avoids brick strangeness by mounting /openils/var as an NFS share on every app server. |
| 09:57 |
bshum |
Course that makes upgrades slightly more entertaining. |
| 09:58 |
krvmga |
bshum: i checked the config.tt2 on all my bricks; they are as expected. i checked in the staff client local administration search filter groups and the format filters are there. |
| 09:59 |
krvmga |
we tried clearing the library's browser cache to no effect |
| 09:59 |
jeff |
are they being forced through a proxy which is breaking certain things? |
| 10:00 |
Dyrcona |
Did they try turning it off and turning it back on? That fixes a lot of Windows problems. |
| 10:00 |
krvmga |
big red button solution++ |
| 10:00 |
* rfrasur |
sets up an alert in Google calendar as jboyer-isl suggested. |
| 10:01 |
jeff |
i had the pleasure of using the big red button solution on our AMH yesterday. |
| 10:02 |
jeff |
there are some behaviors where the quickest fix is to smack the E-STOP (a literal big red button). |
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jeff |
(then twist it to reset the button, then clear && start on the sorter controller) |
| 10:03 |
krvmga |
i'm asking the library to reboot the computer and see if that makes any difference |
| 10:04 |
jeff |
industrial safety controls are interesting beasts -- high priority, and when you hit Clear on the touch-screen (assuming you've also cleared the physical button), there's a very audible THUNK from the inside of the housing as it resets. |
| 10:04 |
krvmga |
i have a big red button not far from my desk but, when i hit it, it just says "that was easy!" |
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| 10:06 |
rfrasur |
krvmga++ |
| 10:06 |
rfrasur |
Staples_Easy_Button++ |
| 10:06 |
krvmga |
:) |
| 10:07 |
krvmga |
bad news. the behavior is still there after a reboot. :( |
| 10:09 |
krvmga |
http://picpaste.com/Blank_format_box_in_Advanced_search__12Nov13-lJUgEzsY.PNG |
| 10:09 |
* tsbere |
would like to see the source of the page that is being loaded, as that particular machine is getting it |
| 10:09 |
Dyrcona |
Have they tried installing Ubuntu? I hear that fixes most Windows problems, too. :p |
| 10:10 |
krvmga |
Dyrcona++ |
| 10:10 |
* Dyrcona |
has nothing helpful to offer, just jokes. |
| 10:10 |
* Dyrcona |
doesn't use IE or Windows. |
| 10:10 |
* bshum |
likes the jokes |
| 10:12 |
mmorgan |
krvmga: Could they possibly have the wrong client version? I think you said it's in the client ... |
| 10:12 |
krvmga |
mmorgan: we just upgraded to 2.4 over the weekend and everyone's client auto-updated |
| 10:13 |
krvmga |
i'm trying to get the source code for the page that's displaying to them. i'm guessing it may be different from what displays to me. |
| 10:13 |
Dyrcona |
krvmga: See if they can do a View Source and copy that to email your. |
| 10:13 |
Dyrcona |
Eh.... timing. |
| 10:13 |
krvmga |
lol |
| 10:17 |
jeff |
.has sometimes issues concurrency with Dyrcona thread |
| 10:18 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 10:18 |
jeff |
i blaJavame exposure |
| 10:18 |
Dyrcona |
@synchronize decorator is missing? |
| 10:18 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: http://www.firstpersontetris.com/ |
| 10:19 |
Dyrcona |
Thank you, pinesol_green, but I don't need a headache today. |
| 10:20 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: pthread_mutex_unlock(&(global->mtx)); |
| 10:20 |
* rfrasur |
already has one |
| 10:21 |
jeff |
> Some people, when confronted with a problem, think, "I know, I'll use mutexes." Now they have |
| 10:21 |
Dyrcona |
That's regexes. :) |
| 10:21 |
jeff |
there's some pretty great gems here: http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/201204/two_problems.html |
| 10:22 |
Dyrcona |
lols |
| 10:23 |
bshum |
That tetris game is too awesome. |
| 10:24 |
Dyrcona |
Yes, it is awesome. |
| 10:24 |
Dyrcona |
I don't know why everyone thinks multithreading is so hard. |
| 10:24 |
Dyrcona |
I think its the "paying attention to what your code is actually doing" part that people have trouble with. |
| 10:25 |
jeff |
while there is also a first person pac man (at least one), i'm more amused by: http://www.pac-txt.com/ |
| 10:25 |
jeff |
> You awaken in a large complex, slightly disoriented. Glowing dots hover mouth level near you in every direction. Off in the distance you hear the faint howling of what you can only imagine must be some sort of ghost or several ghosts. |
| 10:26 |
Dyrcona |
> You are about to be eaten by a Grue. |
| 10:26 |
Dyrcona |
;) |
| 10:26 |
krvmga |
could the blank format filter boxes somehow have been an artifact of caching on one of the brickheads? |
| 10:26 |
tsbere |
Dyrcona: But the glowing dots provide light! :P |
| 10:26 |
krvmga |
i just had a note from one of the libraries that reported the problem saying that the problem had gone away. |
| 10:26 |
Dyrcona |
tsbere: So, you can see the Grue. |
| 10:27 |
tsbere |
krvmga: Could be, but I would expect more than the one box to be blank then... |
| 10:27 |
krvmga |
>attack grue with axe |
| 10:28 |
Dyrcona |
k |
| 10:28 |
Dyrcona |
XSet *-focus-follows-eyes 1 |
| 10:30 |
krvmga |
i did a diff on the code from the library's basic search and from my basic search and the files were identical. |
| 10:33 |
jeff |
as seen by you, or as seen by them? |
| 10:34 |
krvmga |
nope, sorry, i was wrong. |
| 10:35 |
krvmga |
in their code was <select id='_selector' class="" name='fg:'> |
| 10:36 |
krvmga |
it should have been <select id='format_filters_selector' class="" name='fg:format_filters'> |
| 10:37 |
krvmga |
so, how is it not picking up the right thing here? |
| 10:37 |
krvmga |
odd, no? |
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tsbere |
krvmga: Could one brick have a bad template file? |
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| 10:48 |
krvmga |
bshum: it looks like somehow, sometimes filter_sort_selector.tt2 isn't getting the format_filter filter group |
| 10:48 |
krvmga |
i notice the code in that file looks like the blank code that the library got |
| 10:48 |
krvmga |
name = name || "fg:" _ group.code; |
| 10:48 |
krvmga |
id = id || group.code _ "_selector"; |
| 10:48 |
krvmga |
class = class || ''; |
| 10:48 |
krvmga |
values = values || CGI.param(name); |
| 10:54 |
krvmga |
tsbere: but which file? |
| 10:56 |
tsbere |
krvmga: Could be config.tt2, actually... |
| 10:57 |
rfrasur |
yboston: depending on how many people you have in the "on air" session, I wouldn't mind an invite. If there are a lot though, that's okay. I can just follow along on YouTube. |
| 10:57 |
krvmga |
tsbere: that was my original thought. i checked each config.tt2 individually on all the brickheads. |
| 10:57 |
yboston |
rfrasur: there is room, i'll invite you |
| 10:58 |
rfrasur |
ty sir |
| 11:01 |
* jeff |
grins at yboston's computer saying "it's eleven o'clock" :-0 |
| 11:01 |
jeff |
:-) even |
| 11:01 |
jeff |
smiley/emoticon typos as facial tick. huh. |
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mmorgan |
krvmga: Could there be a difference depending on whether they're clicking on a client portal page link vs. going from the client menus? |
| 11:07 |
krvmga |
mmorgan: i'll have to check. |
| 11:23 |
rfrasur |
My brain is being pulled in too many directions. Is "precatalog" an item status or something else? |
| 11:24 |
Dyrcona |
Something else. |
| 11:24 |
rfrasur |
do you know what the something else is? |
| 11:24 |
Dyrcona |
Yes. |
| 11:24 |
jboyer-isl |
They're artificial items that can be turned into real items by the blue fairy once they're checked in. |
| 11:24 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 11:25 |
* kbutler |
laughs. |
| 11:25 |
Dyrcona |
The blue-haired staff member rather than fairy. |
| 11:25 |
rfrasur |
um, how would I run a report for things related to the blue fairy? |
| 11:25 |
* rfrasur |
might have a magic wand somewhere around here. |
| 11:25 |
* rfrasur |
has a letter opener and a ruler. |
| 11:25 |
Dyrcona |
The nitty gritty is you checkout a copy not in the catalog. You get prompted to make a precataloged copy. |
| 11:25 |
Dyrcona |
The copy gets added to bib -1. |
| 11:26 |
Dyrcona |
You check the copy in and you get reminded to send it to cataloging to have a real copy made. |
| 11:26 |
rfrasur |
right, the practical process I understand. I need a report that lists existing precats |
| 11:26 |
Dyrcona |
select * from asset.copy where call_numer = -1 and deleted = 'f'; |
| 11:27 |
rfrasur |
:-| |
| 11:27 |
jboyer-isl |
rfrausr: Check out my shared template folder, the Items folder, and look for "List Pre-Cat Items No Longer Circulating" |
| 11:28 |
jboyer-isl |
They can be deleted or made into real boys by transferring them to valid volumes. |
| 11:29 |
rfrasur |
(I HATE the shared folders lay out) |
| 11:29 |
Dyrcona |
Really? That's all you hate about reports? ;) |
| 11:29 |
jboyer-isl |
Yeah, some of them should probably be hidden, since they're not sorted. :/ |
| 11:30 |
rfrasur |
Dyrcona: no...that's not all. It's just the thing that's bugging me at this exact second. |
| 11:31 |
* rfrasur |
is going to have to rewatch the asciidoc tutorial |
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| 11:33 |
rfrasur |
Um, I wish I never had to look at the output from that report again. jboyer-isl: thanks. That's what I needed (to pass along to another EI member). |
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rfrasur |
all this to ask this simple question of clarification. Is writing in AsciiDoc essentially the same as editing html in notepad...but using asciidoc formatting rules instead? |
| 11:56 |
dbs |
rfrasur: pretty much. But far fewer tags |
| 11:56 |
alexlazar |
rfrasur: maybe more like editing a wiki page, which gets parsed and output into html, or other formats |
| 11:57 |
* rfrasur |
nods |
| 11:58 |
alexlazar |
yboston: dose AsciiDoc control the folder structure of resulting HTML files, or is it one manually |
| 11:59 |
alexlazar |
done |
| 11:59 |
alexlazar |
does |
| 11:59 |
dbs |
Or more like writing text that is readable as just plain text, but also has the benefit of providing nicely formatted alternative outputs :) |
| 12:01 |
dbs |
alexlazar: there isn't really any folder structure, just one output directory (images excepted) |
| 12:03 |
alexlazar |
dbs, yboston thanks for the answers |
| 12:03 |
yboston |
rfrasur: just got your question "So, if there are incorrect pathways, will be they be fixed before documents are added into the official documentation?" |
| 12:04 |
rfrasur |
right, if I have one folder structure locally that doesn't exactly correspond to the offiical folder structure somehow. |
| 12:04 |
rfrasur |
(nice spelling, self) |
| 12:04 |
yboston |
rfrasur: I would assume that when you submit something you will have a more experienced DIG member to help sort that out before we add it to the official docs' |
| 12:05 |
rfrasur |
k, that was my assumption as well. |
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| 12:21 |
linuxhiker |
do we know what the latest version of Encode.pm that works with Evergreen is? I know 2.49 does but the latest does not. |
| 12:24 |
csharp |
linuxhiker: see bug 1242999 |
| 12:24 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1242999 in Evergreen "Encode.pm 2.54 breaks database functions (naco_normalize, maintain_control_numbers, others)" (affected: 1, heat: 10) [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1242999 |
| 12:25 |
csharp |
linuxhiker: eeevil left a message for your other nick (linuxpoet), FYI |
| 12:25 |
linuxhiker |
csharp: great, thanks! |
| 12:25 |
Dyrcona |
@later |
| 12:25 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: have you tried local mean solar time for the named city as the reference point? |
| 12:26 |
Dyrcona |
Isn't their a command to check for who has a later waiting for them? |
| 12:26 |
Dyrcona |
s/their/there/ |
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| 12:26 |
csharp |
@notes |
| 12:26 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: I currently have notes waiting for ackaca, actually,, AlexBoardman, anyzh, berick:, capeschools, Chris2222, community_irc_meeting, dat, davit, dbs,, dbs:, edbarrett, eeevil:, EGUEST089, emrikol^, figu, garren_h2, GDCPLG, geonetis, gett, gmcharlt:, Guest71726, htrap, iarnc, jhaig_, jmeeuwen_:, Kathleen_:, kimilahtio, kivilaht3o, kmlussier:, kuku, Lakeside, lemma, levacjeep:, linuxpoet, (1 more message) |
| 12:26 |
Dyrcona |
@hate English_Orthography |
| 12:26 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: The operation succeeded. Dyrcona hates English_Orthography. |
| 12:26 |
csharp |
@more |
| 12:26 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: luckilissa, makee, miker:, miker_, miker_:, Mitchecacs, moodaepo:, moodaepoo, moodaepoo1, MyBoss, nathanael:, natschil:, natschill, neraath:, nightmorph, ort9217:, paxed:, phasefx:, pinesol, RoganH:, Shimah, tmccanna_, toubs, vali, Versailles, vxbush:, wlayton:, wolf29:, yboston:, youdonotexist, and zoia. |
| 12:28 |
Dyrcona |
To get your later, just say something in channel. |
| 12:28 |
Dyrcona |
Nah, I can't. |
| 12:29 |
Dyrcona |
Those dreaded colons and underscores.... |
| 12:29 |
MyBoss |
What did I say? |
| 12:30 |
Dyrcona |
linuxhiker: having trouble getting the message? |
| 12:30 |
linuxhiker |
Dyrcona: Excellent evaluation of the problem :) |
| 12:31 |
Dyrcona |
switch to linuxpoet then say something in the channel. |
| 12:31 |
Dyrcona |
pinesol_green will send you the message int a /msg |
| 12:31 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) |
| 12:31 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: MARC still isn't dead yet, alas |
| 12:31 |
linuxpoet |
howdy |
| 12:31 |
csharp |
ding |
| 12:31 |
linuxpoet |
aha! |
| 12:31 |
linuxpoet |
thank you |
| 12:31 |
Dyrcona |
yw |
| 12:31 |
csharp |
:-D |
| 12:32 |
Dyrcona |
zoia is a bot isn't it? |
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* Dyrcona |
doesn't feel bad about reading a bot's mail. |
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* rfrasur |
is overrun by small children touching all her office stuff. |
| 12:35 |
* berick |
checks for laterz |
| 12:35 |
berick |
@notes |
| 12:35 |
pinesol_green |
berick: I currently have notes waiting for ackaca, actually,, AlexBoardman, anyzh, berick:, capeschools, Chris2222, community_irc_meeting, dat, davit, dbs,, dbs:, edbarrett, eeevil:, EGUEST089, emrikol^, figu, garren_h2, GDCPLG, geonetis, gett, gmcharlt:, Guest71726, htrap, iarnc, jhaig_, jmeeuwen_:, Kathleen_:, kimilahtio, kivilaht3o, kmlussier:, kuku, Lakeside, lemma, levacjeep:, luckilissa, makee, (1 more message) |
| 12:36 |
berick |
foo |
| 12:38 |
Dyrcona |
The message is waiting for "berick:" |
| 12:38 |
berick |
yeah |
| 12:38 |
Dyrcona |
There's a trick to getting those, but I forget what it was. |
| 12:38 |
berick |
and it won't let me change my nick to that.. |
| 12:38 |
Dyrcona |
Right. |
| 12:40 |
dbwells |
@notes berick: |
| 12:40 |
pinesol_green |
dbwells: Sent 1 year, 7 weeks, 6 days, 18 hours, and 28 minutes ago: <mrpeters-home> do you know if berick/tpac-added-content will backport to 2.2.2? |
| 12:41 |
csharp |
@notes dat |
| 12:41 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: Sent 37 weeks, 5 days, 22 hours, and 36 minutes ago: <bshum> Take a look at http://pastie.org/6309593. Basically I think you've changed your title display and the syntax you're using now isn't proper for BibTemplate and thus failing to show any data. |
| 12:41 |
csharp |
heh |
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Dyrcona |
yeah. I was just going to msg berick with the trick. :) |
| 12:42 |
dbwells |
Not sure how they ever get marked as "read", though |
| 12:43 |
Dyrcona |
The ones with the : are obvious, you can't login with a nick that ends in : |
| 12:44 |
Dyrcona |
I think someone identified with the bot can mark them as read. |
| 12:44 |
Dyrcona |
I believe I did that with one that was sent to Dyrcona:. |
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bshum |
We can always edit the notes DB directly |
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bshum |
And erase other notes |
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bshum |
Or I think as admins we can remove notes |
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paxed |
testing on a mini laptop == slightly painful. |
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rfrasur |
why a mini laptop? |
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paxed |
traveling |
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rfrasur |
makes sense. and you have to work during the travel? |
| 13:28 |
paxed |
i'm working on a new Added Content handler and want to finish that. and this is work-related travel anyway |
| 13:28 |
paxed |
well, the code is done, now just need to test... |
| 13:29 |
rfrasur |
;-), in that case...good luck and hopefully the tests go well so you don't have to fuss with snack-size keyboards and monitors. |
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* Dyrcona |
finds the staff client very cumbersome, and some interfaces unusable, on a resolution less than 1920x1080. |
| 13:32 |
bshum |
There are resolutions lower than that? :P |
| 13:32 |
Dyrcona |
1366x768, for instance.... ;) |
| 13:33 |
Dyrcona |
And, that's hi-def! |
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paxed |
1024x600 :/ |
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* rfrasur |
chooses to forget about 1024x600...or whatever that is. |
| 13:33 |
bshum |
There's lots of dojo interfaces that don't work nicely on small resolutions. And probably several weird XUL ones too now that I think about it more. |
| 13:34 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, if I had the time, and if I cared enough, I'd fix them. |
| 13:34 |
Dyrcona |
One or two just fail to get a horizontal scroller when they should. |
| 13:36 |
paxed |
it seems some programs aren't meant to be used on 1024x600 ... i know couple that have fixed-size windows taller than 600px, with buttons on the bottom. |
| 13:37 |
bshum |
Oh, true. |
| 13:37 |
bshum |
Like Item Status |
| 13:37 |
bshum |
That thing never scales or scrolls right for me |
| 13:37 |
rfrasur |
:-| |
| 13:38 |
Dyrcona |
rfrasur: Sounds about right. ;) |
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rfrasur |
again I say.... :-| |
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jboyer-isl |
rfrasur: Have they seen this: http://www.in.gov/library/3380.htm#report ? |
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rfrasur |
I dunno. But, the report I asked you for earlier? They couldn't follow the path shared folders>templates>etc. etc. I think she got hung up on the fact that she needed to view all rather than 10. |
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jboyer-isl |
That is annoying and catches a lot of people. :( |
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rfrasur |
yeah...it does. She's a really nice person though, so there's that. |
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jboyer-isl |
jcamins: Were we talking about PCI compliance a while ago? I've been looking into that for something and it looks like storing only the last 4 (or first 6, but not both!) of the CC number isn't considered "Storing cardholder data," nor are any of these: name, exp. date, billing addr. (They DO count if you store all 16 digits like a crazy person, though.) |
| 14:13 |
jboyer-isl |
So Evergreen isn't currently a complete PCI nightmare at the moment. (But the "cardholder data network" is potentially huge and un-certifiable. :/ ) |
| 14:16 |
jeff |
don't ever store all 16 digits. pay someone to bear that compliance burden if you have a recurring billing situation. stripe has great recurring billing support. :-) |
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* Dyrcona |
distracts himself from "real work" by taking care of recycling cardboard boxes. |
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* rfrasur |
continues removing items from system. wonderful chore. |
| 14:19 |
rfrasur |
and that's not sarcasm....and neither is this. |
| 14:21 |
jboyer-isl |
rfrasur: I'm not sure if that's sincere sarcasm, sarcastic sincerity, or some kind of grammatical triple-negative. |
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rfrasur |
I know. It' |
| 14:21 |
rfrasur |
It's kinda confusing. It's also hard to type with a pen in hand. |
| 14:21 |
rfrasur |
But, I sincerely love weeding the collection. |
| 14:22 |
Dyrcona |
delete from asset.copy where deleted = 'f'; |
| 14:22 |
Dyrcona |
That's the fast way to do it. :) |
| 14:22 |
rfrasur |
I'm sure, but I don't have access to that. So, I just use the item status screen ;) |
| 14:23 |
jboyer-isl |
jeff: oh, definitely. But I think jcamins and I were talking about what level of compliance was required just to use what's built in to Evergreen currently. I think he was worried that it would be the highest level because we store anything. |
| 14:23 |
jcamins |
jboyer-isl: yeah, someone mentioned storing credit card numbers, and I said I thought it seemed like a terrible idea. |
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jboyer-isl |
I didn't know about even the last 4, but apparently that's considered low importance. |
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rfrasur |
huh, we're deselecting a 2002 pub. "Search Engines Handbook" Bet that's pretty up to date. |
| 14:31 |
jboyer-isl |
How to get top rankings on Ask Jeves and Dogpile! |
| 14:32 |
jboyer-isl |
Jeeves. Jeeze. |
| 14:32 |
* Dyrcona |
has a first edition Whole Internet Guide from 199(23)? |
| 14:32 |
Dyrcona |
It barely even mentions HTTP never mind "the web." |
| 14:32 |
rfrasur |
lol, but that's your personal collection. |
| 14:33 |
Dyrcona |
yep. Every time I move its bigger than before, and every time, I'm tempted to weed it, severely. |
| 14:33 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl: we have/had a couple books like that. Also the Complete PC Upgrade and Maintenance Guide from 2003. |
| 14:35 |
jboyer-isl |
"You too can build a machine that runs 800MHz! What will you do with all of that power? |
| 14:36 |
jcamins |
jboyer-isl: suffer with frame lag in your text editor. |
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rfrasur |
:D |
| 14:39 |
Dyrcona |
jcamins: Yeah, vim sure is bloated.... |
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* Dyrcona |
ducks. |
| 14:40 |
jcamins |
Dyrcona: oh, no, I'm using emacs in vim mode. :P |
| 14:41 |
Dyrcona |
jcamins: The worst of both worlds! |
| 14:41 |
jcamins |
Exactly. |
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jcamins |
(truthfully, I'm using vim) |
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csharp |
vim++ |
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csharp |
@karma vim |
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pinesol_green |
csharp: Karma for "vim" has been increased 1 time and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 1. |
| 14:41 |
Dyrcona |
I use GNU Emacs. |
| 14:41 |
csharp |
@karma emacs |
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pinesol_green |
csharp: emacs has neutral karma. |
| 14:42 |
Dyrcona |
I *like* being able to write macros in Lisp, and evening using Lisp macros as macros..... ;) |
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Dyrcona |
evening? really.... |
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* Dyrcona |
is ashamed. |
| 14:43 |
Dyrcona |
Well, the boxes didn't last too long. |
| 14:43 |
Dyrcona |
Back to working on a software spec that he is likely the only one to ever read. |
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rfrasur |
Dyrcona++ #shame and perseverence are good. I think. |
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ldwhalen |
Dyrcona: I had to stop using emacs. I spent all my time writing Lisp macros and no time actually coding projects |
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ldwhalen |
The syntax for vim script, on the other had, is so ugly I have no desire to use it. So, I am much more productive there. |
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Dyrcona |
I was going to say that I don't actually spend a lot of time on macros in Lisp. |
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ldwhalen |
Not I, feature creap was sitting on my shoulder the entire time I used emacs. Lots of fun though. |
| 15:03 |
Dyrcona |
I find IRC eats more of my time, now. :) |
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* rfrasur |
fights the urge to laugh maniacally |
| 15:05 |
Dyrcona |
I did spend a good deal of time a couple of years ago on some advice functions for html mode for things like wrapping text with certain tags and inserting the close tag automatically after the open tag. |
| 15:07 |
jeff |
so yeah, vandelay has quite useful duplicate detection... but not within the same batch. |
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Dyrcona |
When I had command line only access to a unix machine in the early '90s, emacs was my shell. |
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krvmga |
okay, i was finally able to duplicate the blank format filter box problem that i was talking about earlier. it seems to be somehow tied to a user's login. |
| 15:18 |
krvmga |
so if i login, format filters show up fine |
| 15:18 |
krvmga |
if i login with an account experiencing the problem, i also experience the problem. |
| 15:18 |
krvmga |
i do not understand how this could happen. |
| 15:19 |
bshum |
Could be corrupted usr settings. |
| 15:19 |
krvmga |
bshum: when i look at an affected account in patron edit, i dont see anything odd. |
| 15:20 |
bshum |
There are more user settings than are shown in patron editor. |
| 15:20 |
krvmga |
than in all my philosophy? |
| 15:20 |
bshum |
I would check the database table actor.usr_setting |
| 15:20 |
bshum |
For the usr id that relates to the one that's broken |
| 15:21 |
bshum |
And see if maybe they've got some weird entry that's gumming things up. |
| 15:21 |
Dyrcona |
Yes, Horatio. |
| 15:21 |
Dyrcona |
;) |
| 15:22 |
krvmga |
_somebody_ got it |
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krvmga |
:) |
| 15:22 |
bshum |
If it wasn't on Star Trek, I have no idea what you're talking about. |
| 15:22 |
krvmga |
it was a minor Hamlet reference |
| 15:31 |
kmlussier |
krvmga: I don't think it's the user account. I think it's related to the search scope. If I select Hopkington as my search location, even when I'm not logged in, I see the problem. If I change my search location to Adams, it's fine. |
| 15:31 |
krvmga |
kmlussier: how bizarre is that? |
| 15:34 |
Dyrcona |
"There are more things under heaven and earth than are dreamed of in your philosophy, Horatio." :) |
| 15:34 |
Dyrcona |
So, not very bizarre to me. |
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krvmga |
lol |
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krvmga |
so why does this happen? |
| 15:37 |
krvmga |
that is the question. |
| 15:37 |
Dyrcona |
Just like a Prince of Denmark, I got nothing.... |
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kmlussier |
So far, I've found three C/W MARS libraries that, when set as the search location, muck up the Format selector. I'm wondering if it might be related to their custom org tree. |
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