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paxed |
berick, eeevil: typo "deault" in 'Auto-generate deault item barcodes when no item barcode is present' |
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* csharp |
attempts to learn git for Windows on the fly so he can train his coworker on it ;-) |
| 08:16 |
csharp |
Meliss++ |
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csharp |
bshum: it's possible that the IP change has affected SSH keys on remote servers :-/ |
| 08:49 |
csharp |
oh - you mean on the git server itself - never mind |
| 08:49 |
paxed |
looks like our project will sponsor some new functionality in evergreen. |
| 08:50 |
paxed |
mainly because we need the feature(s) before we can go live |
| 08:50 |
rfrasur |
paxed++ |
| 08:50 |
rfrasur |
you know what functionality? |
| 08:50 |
csharp |
paxed++ |
| 08:51 |
paxed |
also, because i don't know yet enough to code those myself. :-} |
| 08:51 |
rfrasur |
I think that's often the case. |
| 08:51 |
csharp |
yep |
| 08:51 |
paxed |
rfrasur: something to do with serials, i think. also 773/774 linking |
| 08:52 |
rfrasur |
oh...we'll have to kick you out for that. 'cuz we all have infinite knowledge about all things :D |
| 08:52 |
rfrasur |
oh, that's cool. I suspect that'll make some larger libs pretty happy. |
| 08:53 |
rfrasur |
larger/academic/not_rural_Indiana |
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paxed |
i've been looking at the 773/774 linking myself a bit, but definitely need a more experienced dev at least holding my hand, if not more :) |
| 08:54 |
rfrasur |
that'll also free you up to work on other stuff anyway. many hands = light(er) work and all that. |
| 08:55 |
paxed |
well, i am in this project as a coder, so ... |
| 08:57 |
rfrasur |
yes...but even people who are very good at something generally require someone more experienced...unless you're really old and you've run out of elders. |
| 08:57 |
rfrasur |
require...at times, that is |
| 08:59 |
paxed |
we were supposed to have another coder too, but due to all kinds of problems, no go. and a bit late for that now; he couldn't possibly learn enough to help before we go live. |
| 08:59 |
rfrasur |
What's your estimated "go live" date? |
| 09:01 |
Dyrcona |
paxed: I'm available part time for remote work as long as I don't need to completely understand Finnish. |
| 09:01 |
csharp |
Dyrcona++ |
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paxed |
rfrasur: currently, just before next conference. |
| 09:01 |
rfrasur |
Dyrcona: Do you partially understand Finnish? |
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rfrasur |
paxed: woah...and cool (that's actually VERY exciting...except it'll be a lot of work for you). |
| 09:03 |
paxed |
rfrasur: so... much... to do... :P |
| 09:04 |
rfrasur |
for sure. It'll be awesome when it's done though :D |
| 09:04 |
rfrasur |
well..."done" being a relative term |
| 09:04 |
paxed |
heh |
| 09:04 |
Dyrcona |
I can say "Merry Christmas and Happy f'in New year" can't spell it though. |
| 09:04 |
csharp |
@eightball is software ever "done"? |
| 09:04 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: You know the answer better than I. |
| 09:04 |
* rfrasur |
laughs |
| 09:04 |
* Dyrcona |
learned Finnish by watching Finnish horror films. :) |
| 09:04 |
rfrasur |
Very important phrases |
| 09:05 |
paxed |
Dyrcona: "Hyvää joulua ja iloista uutta vuotta" possibly? :) |
| 09:05 |
rfrasur |
The Finnish Santa movie just came in here. The title is escaping me. |
| 09:05 |
Dyrcona |
paxed: Yeah, it looks like that's how it might be written. :) |
| 09:06 |
Dyrcona |
Rare Exports....Very entertaining film. |
| 09:06 |
rfrasur |
yes! I'm watching it this weekend (yay, vacation...sorta) |
| 09:07 |
paxed |
rfrasur: btw, the image on G+, the green/blue "cards"? how do those work, is that the whole card, or does the card pop out of it? seem to me like there's two components in each? |
| 09:07 |
rfrasur |
yeah, there are two components. There's a key fob and a standard card. |
| 09:08 |
rfrasur |
They punch out of the frame. |
| 09:08 |
paxed |
ah. yeah, i though it was a key fob |
| 09:08 |
paxed |
so there's just a bar code on the key fob? |
| 09:08 |
rfrasur |
Yep. |
| 09:08 |
paxed |
interesting. i don't think i've seen that before. |
| 09:09 |
rfrasur |
I'll put up another picture. I'm actually just using Google to hold the pictures so I can put together a PSA for our schools. The barcode thing is something I always forget to address. Thx for the reminder. |
| 09:11 |
rfrasur |
We didn't have those type cards before Evergreen, so they assume it was an Evergreen thing...though you can get those type of cards for any ILS. |
| 09:11 |
paxed |
Dyrcona: if there'll be something that requires some quick coding i can't do, i'll put your name forward :P |
| 09:11 |
jeff |
keep in mind that you probably want to never use the barcode in your ILS if you post a photo of the barcode itself. :-) |
| 09:11 |
paxed |
heh |
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* Dyrcona |
builds a new dev vm, 'cause what he's got is a mess. |
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Dyrcona |
Thinks maybe my vm suffered from some package corruption when the mirror ran out of disk space. |
| 09:17 |
csharp |
ouch |
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Dyrcona |
Yeah, we didn't notice until after I had built the vm. |
| 09:18 |
Dyrcona |
We don't mirror lucid any longer and all should be good. |
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krvmga |
does dojo provide the framework for autosuggest? |
| 09:26 |
csharp |
krvmga: yes, but that's about all I know ;-) |
| 09:27 |
krvmga |
csharp: i thought it did but i wanted to be sure. |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Pasi Kallinen] Unify appellee/appellant relators - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=a8118d8> |
| 09:42 |
paxed |
whee |
| 09:43 |
Dyrcona |
paxed++ |
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paxed |
(looking at translations you do spot all kinds of strange things...) |
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rfrasur |
Good vendors have nice people that talk to clients/customers. Warms my cold, dark librarian heart. |
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csharp |
hmm - I've never used git gui, so I didn't realize it's the same program between windows and linux |
| 10:12 |
bshum |
And mac too. |
| 10:12 |
bshum |
Certainly made it easier to show folks on different platforms what to do. |
| 10:13 |
bshum |
For broad simple steps in git. |
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dbs |
same program on windows, linux, and mac? Must be XUL. |
| 10:42 |
dbs |
*ba-dump-shaaaaaaa* |
| 10:44 |
csharp |
dbs++ |
| 10:45 |
csharp |
bshum: yeah - it took me a little while to see how to do all the git steps in the GUI, but I was able to work up a "quickstart" doc |
| 10:45 |
csharp |
I may de-PINESify it and put it on the wiki |
| 10:45 |
csharp |
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K8e0z09uvTVnCWCBYIGebw5obbdXG9edGfHKRXgsNlc/edit?usp=sharing |
| 10:49 |
rfrasur |
oy...writing checks for $3.57 and $3.69. The cost of the checks is nearly that. |
| 10:49 |
Dyrcona |
checks-- |
| 10:49 |
rfrasur |
you are correct. |
| 10:50 |
Dyrcona |
Not worth it to ACH either. Anything under $20 is a waste on banking fees. |
| 10:50 |
rfrasur |
yep...but it's money we owe. should have just paid it out of petty cash. |
| 10:50 |
rfrasur |
coulda shoulda woulda |
| 10:51 |
rfrasur |
these couldn't have been ACHed anyway. Local accounts |
| 10:53 |
rfrasur |
(well, they could have...but the merchant learning curve isn't worth it) |
| 10:53 |
Dyrcona |
I just want to publicly note that I installed OpenSRF and started services. |
| 10:53 |
Dyrcona |
I tested opensrf.math add 3,3 and got back 6. |
| 10:53 |
Dyrcona |
Because last time after I installed, Evergreen it stopped working. |
| 10:54 |
* Dyrcona |
shoots at stray comma. Misses. |
| 10:54 |
dbs |
Oh, you didn't follow the docs. You're supposed to add 2,2. |
| 10:54 |
Dyrcona |
heh. |
| 10:54 |
* dbs |
points OpenSRF at http://toys.usvsth3m.com/maths/ |
| 10:54 |
rfrasur |
This isn't your first OpenSRF install though, right? |
| 10:55 |
* Dyrcona |
stopped counting over two years ago. |
| 10:55 |
Dyrcona |
I used to do 1 or 2 a week before our migration. |
| 10:55 |
Dyrcona |
I've scripted most of the steps. |
| 10:55 |
rfrasur |
that's what I thought... |
| 10:55 |
rfrasur |
well, not the exact number...but yeah. |
| 10:56 |
* rfrasur |
was just clarifying for own benefit |
| 10:56 |
Dyrcona |
I think my Evergreen setup script had a bug that finally bit me. |
| 10:56 |
Dyrcona |
I fixed it and await my database reload to finish to see for sure. |
| 10:57 |
Dyrcona |
berick: Are you done with http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/OpenSRF.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/berick/lp1204123-signal-expansion ? |
| 10:57 |
Dyrcona |
I've loaded that last week and this week. I tested everything but the python changes. |
| 10:57 |
Dyrcona |
It works for me! |
| 11:01 |
rfrasur |
Hmm, related to nothing that I'm doing. What's the max your HD should be used for best performance? |
| 11:02 |
Dyrcona |
rfrasur: Depends on the hardware and network connection if you're streaming. |
| 11:02 |
berick |
Dyrcona: yep, all done. |
| 11:02 |
berick |
thanks for testing |
| 11:02 |
Dyrcona |
Or wait, do you mean hard drive or high definition? |
| 11:03 |
rfrasur |
Hard Drive, sorry |
| 11:03 |
Dyrcona |
berick: Cool. do you want me to push to master? |
| 11:03 |
* Dyrcona |
used HDs until they die. |
| 11:03 |
berick |
Dyrcona: yes plz |
| 11:03 |
Dyrcona |
berick: will do in a momentito. |
| 11:03 |
berick |
Dyrcona++ |
| 11:04 |
rfrasur |
I do the same at home...or used to. This HD can't die without a plan in place. |
| 11:04 |
Dyrcona |
If you're asking how much of the disk to use, as in how much to format, I use the whole thing, unless we're talking about a database server. |
| 11:05 |
rfrasur |
I'm asking how much of a formatted disk to use before it starts getting grumpy. |
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Dyrcona |
I'll let the folks with more Windows experience answer. You can go to just about 100% on GNU/Linux and FreeBSD, etc., and the system won't care until it is full, then you get a lovely kernel panic. |
| 11:07 |
rfrasur |
ahh, so it IS a Windows thing. |
| 11:07 |
* rfrasur |
isn't surprised. |
| 11:10 |
rfrasur |
I think mllewellyn needs to be in charge of supplying the EG bake sale, btw. |
| 11:12 |
pinesol_green |
Showing latest 5 of 24 commits to OpenSRF... |
| 11:12 |
pinesol_green |
[opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP1204123 osrf_ctl.sh improvement - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=d1d2894> |
| 11:12 |
pinesol_green |
[opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP#1204123 osrf_control --diagnostic - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=e6cdba1> |
| 11:12 |
pinesol_green |
[opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP#1204123 osrf_control --diagnostic improvements - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=f7c7fd4> |
| 11:12 |
pinesol_green |
[opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP#1204123 osrf_control warn and exit on bad host - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=ca94866> |
| 11:12 |
pinesol_green |
[opensrf|Bill Erickson] LP#1204123 repair makefile.am warning - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=OpenSRF.git;a=commit;h=0ef66ee> |
| 11:13 |
Dyrcona |
Hmm... Maybe I should have squashed them? ... Nah. |
| 11:13 |
berick |
meh |
| 11:13 |
Dyrcona |
I really like the osrf_control --diagnostic option. |
| 11:14 |
Dyrcona |
berick++ |
| 11:15 |
berick |
cool. some day i may make it a little tidier / more informative |
| 11:15 |
Dyrcona |
Now, I just have to get my fingers to stop typing osrf_ctonrol instead of osrf_clt.sh. ;) |
| 11:16 |
gmcharlt |
Dyrcona: heh -- I hope you don't get *quite* used to typing it like that ;) |
| 11:16 |
berick |
i know, so much muscle memory. reminds me of the Great Perl Move of perlmods/* to perlmods/lib/* -- took forever |
| 11:17 |
dbs |
but look at the benefits! |
| 11:17 |
* dbs |
squints eyes |
| 11:17 |
berick |
no complaints here |
| 11:17 |
berick |
/openils/bin/osrf_stopdropandroll |
| 11:17 |
Dyrcona |
heh. |
| 11:17 |
Dyrcona |
/openils/bin/osrf_stopdropandroll --kill-with-fire ? |
| 11:18 |
berick |
heh exactly |
| 11:18 |
gmcharlt |
... --the-only-way-to-be-sure |
| 11:18 |
Dyrcona |
That option cracked me up, but it works! |
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| 11:20 |
* rfrasur |
hasn't fired herself in over a month. It appears the time has come again. |
| 11:22 |
Dyrcona |
rfrasur: Give yourself a vacation instead. You're likely just tired. :) |
| 11:22 |
rfrasur |
It begins on Saturday. |
| 11:22 |
Dyrcona |
May it be a real vacation. |
| 11:23 |
* rfrasur |
hears the Hallelujah chorus |
| 11:23 |
rfrasur |
It shall be. Everyone else is still working/going to school. |
| 11:26 |
rfrasur |
On a lighter note, Drunk History was exceptionally awesome last night. I never knew Ralph Nader did stuff other than lose elections. |
| 11:27 |
berick |
drunk Ralph Nader? |
| 11:28 |
rfrasur |
no...he wasn't drunk. It's some dude that records people that know stuff explaining historical events while drunk. |
| 11:28 |
rfrasur |
It's ridiculous and informative all at the same time. |
| 11:29 |
berick |
wait, what? i've seen the show. i thought the whole point was that the teller of the story was drunk. |
| 11:29 |
berick |
they have sober people on there now? |
| 11:29 |
rfrasur |
no...it was about Ralph Nader. He was the historical event. |
| 11:29 |
berick |
oooohhh |
| 11:29 |
berick |
i was about to get angry! ;) |
| 11:30 |
rfrasur |
I don't blame you, lol. No...they were definitely all drunk. |
| 11:32 |
paxed |
dbwells: if i wanted to get updated Finnish translation into 2.5, when and how should i put it out? I'd far prefer git over launchpad ... |
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rfrasur |
rjackson-isl: I'm getting ready to use the batch import tool. Be prepared if it all goes wrong. |
| 12:36 |
rjackson-isl |
thanks for the warning rfrsur! |
| 12:36 |
rfrasur |
I figured it's only fair. |
| 12:39 |
rfrasur |
so far so good |
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rfrasur |
w00t |
| 12:49 |
dbwells |
paxed: I know very little about the non-code-side translation bits. I would suggest you write a brief proposal of how you think the process should go and send it to the dev list for comment. |
| 12:50 |
paxed |
dbwells: it's irritating uploading those 40+ files by hand to launchpad. that's my major gripe :P |
| 12:50 |
dbwells |
paxed: if you are lucky, you will be then crowned translation king and put in charge of the whole thing. |
| 12:50 |
* paxed |
shudders |
| 12:50 |
dbwells |
;) |
| 12:53 |
paxed |
i think being a king is too much work. i'd be much happier being the spy... |
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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Lebbeous Fogle-Weekley] Add more built things to .gitignore for master - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=48cd176> |
| 12:56 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] Add some 'make check' objects to .gitignore - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=dcc6f45> |
| 12:56 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Ben Shum] Add xulrunner 14, built libmar tools, and some javascript files to .gitignore - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=0835a6e> |
| 12:56 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Bill Erickson] .gitignore installed files more generically - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=2859d88> |
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| 13:00 |
rfrasur |
another good thing about OS ILS - visibility of MARC |
| 13:03 |
paxed |
which brings to my mind a question: why is the marc in the opac not in fixed-width font? :) |
| 13:06 |
rfrasur |
That's outside my knowledge base. :D |
| 13:07 |
paxed |
it's easy to change, but i'd think it would make more sense showing it in monospace by default :P |
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| 13:08 |
rfrasur |
The only things I know about fonts are what looks awful...and a few other things...but not that. |
| 13:11 |
hopkinsju |
Anyone toyed around with Fedora 19? |
| 13:12 |
hopkinsju |
+evergreen? |
| 13:14 |
Dyrcona |
hopkinsju: dbs probably has. |
| 13:32 |
jboyer-isl |
rfrasur, paxed: Well, using a monospace font would highlight the extreme old-ness of the format being displayed suchly. |
| 13:33 |
jboyer-isl |
Oh, look at the timestamps. Oops. |
| 13:33 |
paxed |
hah |
| 13:33 |
rfrasur |
lol, nice |
| 13:33 |
rfrasur |
pardon - I'm in cataloging hell right now. |
| 13:34 |
dbs |
hopkinsju: not just toying around. have been running it on home office desktop + two laptops for a few months now |
| 13:40 |
mrpeters |
tater: have you had any luck with getting eg-stats-collector working with rsyslogd instead of syslog-ng? |
| 13:43 |
paxed |
hm. how would i debug fieldmapper problem? seems like it's only giving me english strings, not finnish ones. |
| 13:44 |
paxed |
looks like http://localhost/reports/fm_IDL.xml?locale=en-US vs. locale=fi-FI work correctly. |
| 13:45 |
paxed |
staff client won't show fm strings in finnish though. :( |
| 13:47 |
Dyrcona |
gmcharlt: Are you also the maintainer of MARC::Batch? |
| 13:47 |
gmcharlt |
Dyrcona: yes |
| 13:47 |
Dyrcona |
I think I'll file an issue with a patch for a feature request in a bit. |
| 13:47 |
gmcharlt |
groovy |
| 13:47 |
Dyrcona |
It doesn't seem to print a new line after warnings. |
| 13:53 |
tater |
mrpeters: I'll have to get back to you on that |
| 13:55 |
mrpeters |
tater: cool. |
| 13:55 |
mrpeters |
i figure theres a way, i just didn't want to recreate the wheel if you had already done it |
| 13:56 |
mrpeters |
afaik the logs look the same as if they came from syslog-ng and they're structured in the same directory format |
| 13:56 |
Dyrcona |
Ah ha! |
| 13:56 |
Dyrcona |
gmcharlt: After looking at the code, I see that I may have other options. |
| 13:56 |
gmcharlt |
Dyrcona: *quack* ;) |
| 13:57 |
* jeff |
grins |
| 13:58 |
rfrasur |
(how very strange that the ISBN for this book is only one digit off from another book that we have in our purchase queue) |
| 13:58 |
Dyrcona |
Although, it would be pretty easy to make MARC::Batch add the new line rather than my code setting warnings of and then querying each record. |
| 13:58 |
mrpeters |
tater: i think it actually works right out of the box! |
| 13:58 |
csharp |
hopkinsju: I'm using Fedora 19 as my primary OS at home and work right now - or were you talking about server? |
| 13:58 |
Dyrcona |
How very common that two totally different books from the same publisher have the same ISBN. |
| 13:58 |
mrpeters |
i'll have to wait until tonight to kill a service to be sure, but i think its working |
| 13:59 |
moodaepo |
mrpeters: hmm which config are you using? I needed to added a couple of lines to get it to work nicely. |
| 14:00 |
mrpeters |
moodaepo: actually, i need to modify the path to the logs in eg-stats-collector.pl slightly (no /prod/ in my path) and then I'm sure I've got to get it to start writing eg-stats.log now that i look at it |
| 14:00 |
mrpeters |
i betcha there is a converter out there for syslog-ng to rsyslogd syntax |
| 14:05 |
tater |
mrpeters: here's what moodaepo is takling about: http://lumen.esilibrary.com/p/3Eh1Kw69.html |
| 14:05 |
mrpeters |
awesome....thank you guys, for the script of course, and for the rsyslog config |
| 14:05 |
mrpeters |
library will be very happy when they have monitoring installed by EOD :) |
| 14:19 |
csharp |
@karma drupal |
| 14:19 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: drupal has neutral karma. |
| 14:23 |
rfrasur |
drupal-- #for having an awful name |
| 14:24 |
jboyer-isl |
I think it used to have another name. It must not have been much better if I can't remember it though... Flower-sort-of logo maybe? |
| 14:24 |
* rfrasur |
cringes and shudders |
| 14:25 |
jboyer-isl |
Or is that Joomla? Another masterpiece in name branding. |
| 14:25 |
rfrasur |
Yeah, I think you're thinking of Joomla |
| 14:25 |
csharp |
rfrasur: jboyer-isl: have fun!: http://www.brandbucket.com/domain-names-for-sale/ |
| 14:26 |
csharp |
click Home and marvel at the possibilities for *your* brand name ;-) |
| 14:26 |
rfrasur |
otherwise known as "that which was a curse word to me for 1.5 years." |
| 14:26 |
rfrasur |
(If you have to put an exclamation point on it...you're trying too hard) |
| 14:27 |
rfrasur |
oh man. |
| 14:27 |
jboyer-isl |
I could rock yackly.com. |
| 14:27 |
jboyer-isl |
but not for that # of bills. |
| 14:28 |
csharp |
heh |
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rfrasur |
um...I don't want a brand name. maybe something like "goaway.com" or "yeahright.com" or "wearetheb.org" |
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| 14:32 |
rfrasur |
I. Hate. Cataloging. More than bookkeeping. More than cottage cheese. |
| 14:36 |
phasefx |
rfrasur: and if you had to catalog the ledger for a cottage cheese manufacturing plant? |
| 14:36 |
rfrasur |
Hmm... |
| 14:37 |
* rfrasur |
ponders this |
| 14:37 |
rfrasur |
no, that could not happen. |
| 14:37 |
phasefx |
haha, does not compute |
| 14:38 |
* Dyrcona |
has found that "could not happen" happens all the time. |
| 14:39 |
phasefx |
particularly if you encode it into an error message like "You can't get here" |
| 14:39 |
* rfrasur |
continues glaring at the computer screen. |
| 14:39 |
Dyrcona |
My preference is "Holy WTF, Batman!" |
| 14:40 |
rfrasur |
(that's about right...cataloging the ledger for a cottage cheese manufacturer...blech) |
| 14:40 |
* rfrasur |
tries to think of a worse food |
| 14:41 |
* Dyrcona |
has learned there is always a worse food. |
| 14:41 |
rfrasur |
None that I've eaten. |
| 14:41 |
rfrasur |
maybe live octopus |
| 14:41 |
Dyrcona |
Usually from East Asia. |
| 14:42 |
rfrasur |
Dyrcona++ #spot on |
| 14:42 |
rfrasur |
or blood soup |
| 14:42 |
Dyrcona |
Eggs pickled in urine. |
| 14:43 |
Dyrcona |
On that note, I go back to watching error messages stream over my screen. |
| 14:44 |
Dyrcona |
1,200 records to go and my marc load is done. |
| 14:46 |
rfrasur |
Dyrcona: You win with the urine pickling. |
| 14:46 |
* rfrasur |
still hates cottage cheese, but just a little less. |
| 14:49 |
mrpeters |
tater -- would you welcome a rewrite of http://esilibrary.com/~mtate/eg-stats.html with instructions for rsyslog (thanks to moodaepo) |
| 14:50 |
tater |
I forgot that was still up |
| 14:52 |
mrpeters |
:) it sure is...i was glad to find it today!!! |
| 14:52 |
mrpeters |
what if we got it into your Equinox git and wrote some new documentation? |
| 14:52 |
mrpeters |
I'd love to contribute that back, for allowing the community to use your work like this |
| 14:52 |
tater |
I think we're pushing all this to the repo |
| 14:53 |
tater |
if not now, then soon |
| 14:53 |
mrpeters |
maybe i can create a working branch in Evergreen then. I couldn't find any of the scripts in the repo. |
| 14:53 |
mrpeters |
cool, if you want to handle it, i dont want to step on toes, i just figured the least i could do was update the documentation for ya |
| 14:53 |
mrpeters |
because the tool is so useful. everyone should be using it with icinga/nagios |
| 14:53 |
mrpeters |
its a lifesaver |
| 14:54 |
tater |
mrpeters: if you have the docs ready to go then that's great! |
| 14:54 |
mrpeters |
yeah, I've been redocumenting as I go. I will email you, sound good? |
| 14:54 |
mrpeters |
tater++ moodaepo++ |
| 14:55 |
tater |
Team Evergreen++ |
| 14:56 |
mrpeters |
^ respect |
| 14:56 |
paxed |
@hate fieldmapper |
| 14:56 |
pinesol_green |
paxed: The operation succeeded. paxed hates fieldmapper. |
| 14:57 |
csharp |
@blame fieldmapper |
| 14:57 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: Your failure is now complete, fieldmapper. |
| 14:58 |
rfrasur |
(fieldmapper must eat cottage cheese) |
| 14:58 |
csharp |
@blame add $who must eat cottage cheese! |
| 14:58 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). |
| 14:58 |
paxed |
i just can't get fieldmapper to show me finnish text. |
| 14:58 |
* tater |
eats cottege cheese |
| 14:58 |
tater |
...that explains alot... |
| 14:59 |
paxed |
(other than forcing it to reload everything at every page load, but ...) |
| 14:59 |
csharp |
@blame add $who must eat cottage cheese! |
| 14:59 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: The operation succeeded. Blame #13 added. |
| 14:59 |
* csharp |
actually likes cottage cheese too |
| 14:59 |
rfrasur |
tater: I'm sure that all your positive aspects counterbalance your afinity for cottage cheese rendering its affects null |
| 15:00 |
rfrasur |
fieldmapper just doesn't have enough positive characteristics to nullify the cottage cheese. |
| 15:02 |
rfrasur |
Rotten food reminds me that on Drunk History (which is obviously a reliable source for information), I learned that corn flakes came into being because some dough started growing mold. |
| 15:03 |
paxed |
any dev willing to help me out here with this fieldmapper thing? 'cause i'm all out of ideas. |
| 15:03 |
paxed |
and i'm ready to go and do something drastic. |
| 15:05 |
jeff |
paxed: have a link to a bug or other description? |
| 15:09 |
mrpeters |
tater: last time i bug you --- you wouldnt happen to have a "bad" line of eg_stats.log that i could dummy in to test the script without killing services, would you? |
| 15:09 |
paxed |
jeff: bug 1171875 and follow the links. i can push a branch with our modifications, so you can try it yourself. |
| 15:09 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1171875 in Evergreen 2.3 "IDL2js needs locale support" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1171875 |
| 15:10 |
paxed |
jeff: but it's not _that_ bug, as manually doing http://localhost/reports/fm_IDL.xml?locale=fi-FI works just fine. it's just staff client showing only english texts for strings that come via fieldmapper. |
| 15:10 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl: That email that was going around AVC w/ Evergreen actually is legit. |
| 15:11 |
jboyer-isl |
rfrasur: remind me. No bells ringing at the moment. |
| 15:11 |
jeff |
paxed: in that bug you mention that the patron editor worked. do you have a specific place in the staff client that is not working, or is it pretty much "nothing else shows translated strings"? |
| 15:11 |
tater |
mrpeters: are you getting results now? If so just, change one of the Listeners to "0" |
| 15:12 |
paxed |
jeff: well, not even the patron registration shows finnish texts anymore. |
| 15:12 |
mrpeters |
aha! perfect, thanks tater |
| 15:12 |
mrpeters |
tater++ again |
| 15:12 |
rfrasur |
AVC is our accounting software...so it didn't make sense that it'd have anything to do with EG. Apparently, however, they've built something to track wireless usage in conjunction w/ EG. The guy is calling me back in the next few to several days..and sending me more info via email in the meantime. |
| 15:12 |
tater |
that should do it |
| 15:12 |
paxed |
jeff: user/paxed/oplibfi for our changes. |
| 15:12 |
mrpeters |
you know me, always making things more difficult than they have to be ;) |
| 15:12 |
jeff |
paxed: it did before, but doesn't now? do you know where/when it stopped? |
| 15:12 |
tater |
said to the guy who married a redhead... |
| 15:13 |
paxed |
jeff: no idea. |
| 15:13 |
mrpeters |
haha....my mom is a redhead...she is pretty difficult ;) |
| 15:13 |
* paxed |
goes to bed. |
| 15:15 |
jboyer-isl |
rfrasur: Huh. Never heard of it before you asked, so I assumed they weren't related. I am curious how exactly it's supposed to work. (perhaps they built a wireless captive portal with either SIP support or basic evergreen API support.) |
| 15:17 |
rfrasur |
I'm interested as well. I'll pass along whatever info I get once it makes sense. Most of what they do is pretty basic (which is not to say that it isn't highly appreciated) so hopefully that won't be too far in the future. |
| 15:17 |
jboyer-isl |
Having dealt with them before, I'd be especially curious about how well it works. The accounting software did lots of things, but impressing me was never one of them. (The best Access-based accounting package is still an Access-based accounting package...) |
| 15:17 |
rfrasur |
agreed. I like what the software does...but that's about it. And being tied to a Windows machine... |
| 15:18 |
rfrasur |
but their service is fantastic...which counts for a lot (though we haven't made any panic calls recently). |
| 15:19 |
rfrasur |
(they also provide us with a small amount of plausible deniability) |
| 15:31 |
Dyrcona |
Whee! Filed my first ever bug on CPAN. You'd think I would have filed one on something by now. |
| 15:32 |
Dyrcona |
We should make a social game out of bug wrangling and award players for reporting, triaging, and fixing bugs. |
| 15:32 |
Dyrcona |
With achievements! |
| 15:37 |
rfrasur |
would you get little badges? |
| 15:39 |
Dyrcona |
Virtual ones. |
| 15:39 |
rfrasur |
of course |
| 15:51 |
rangi |
Dyrcona: have you seen questhub? |
| 15:51 |
rangi |
http://questhub.io/welcome |
| 15:56 |
Dyrcona |
hey. that's cool. I should have made that years ago. |
| 16:00 |
rfrasur |
dbwells++ #late but I'm just now going through email |
| 16:02 |
* bshum |
is still catching up on emails. |
| 16:07 |
Dyrcona |
How I catch up on emails: *Right Click*->Mark Folder Read.... |
| 16:07 |
jboyer-isl |
atheos: You ever hear back about the hackaway? |
| 16:08 |
bshum |
Dyrcona: I usually think about doing that. And then I feel bad and go back to read everything anyways. |
| 16:08 |
Dyrcona |
I do that for the bugs and commit message folders for sure. |
| 16:08 |
Dyrcona |
I usually skim the subjects of the other mailing lists I'm on and read anything that looks important/interesting. |
| 16:08 |
rfrasur |
Dyrcona: The first step of me catching up on email is deleting 75% of them. |
| 16:09 |
rfrasur |
I only read stuff I have to deal with or might want to deal with. The rest gets marked as read |
| 16:15 |
jcamins |
I've switched to deleting most mailing lists sight unseen. |
| 16:15 |
jcamins |
*messages from most mailing lists |
| 16:19 |
rfrasur |
jcamins++ |
| 16:44 |
rfrasur |
Much stapling shall now ensue. |
| 16:52 |
mrpeters |
gmcharlt++ for changes to support rsyslog local0 in eg-stats-collector-remote-log.pl |
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moodaepo |
@later tell mrpeters pushed the files to contrib/equinox.git |
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pinesol_green |
moodaepo: The operation succeeded. |
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mrpeters |
This probably belongs more in #nagios but i'm going to share here for benefit of our logs....if you ever set up Nagios/Icinga monitoring on Ubuntu, there is a bug in check_procs (https://github.com/example42/puppet-apache/issues/8) so that something like "check_procs -w 1:150 -c 1:200 -C apache2" will fail. You have to shorten it to "check_procs -w 1:150 -c 1:200 -C apach". |
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