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pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Liam Whalen] Fixes error with generate_fines for overdues returned after closed date - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=f040814> |
| 09:22 |
kmlussier |
Last chance to submit your available dates/times before I set a date for this week's developers meeting! http://www.doodle.com/e9desufeu3fpf738 |
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gmcharlt |
dbs: I've secured permission to grab some Real Evergreen Serial Subscriptions (TM) and will be compiling and submitting the dataset tomorrow |
| 09:48 |
dbs |
gmcharlt++ # awesome, much better than hand-carving fake subscriptions (although it's worth a walk through the serial control / alternate serial control world on occasion) |
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jeff_ |
if ($@ && ref($@) eq 'XML::LibXML::Error') { |
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jeff_ |
$xml =~ s/\x04//g; # Remove ^D from xml |
| 10:12 |
Dyrcona |
jeff_: You're still messing around with that NCIP data? |
| 10:13 |
jeff_ |
Dyrcona: back at it. just looking at the absurdity of the code i wrote to work around the data. |
| 10:13 |
csharp |
jeff_: hi - we're looking at implementing KPAC soon and are admiring TADL's non-KPAC kids OPAC (http://catalog.tadl.org/eg/opac/home?loc=22;physical_dept=ys) |
| 10:13 |
jeff_ |
csharp: cool. it's a dirty, well-received hack. :-) |
| 10:13 |
csharp |
we noticed that there aren't any "canned" searches like there are in KPAC - was there a logistical reason TADL hasn't implemented that kind of thing? |
| 10:14 |
csharp |
heh |
| 10:14 |
jeff_ |
it wasn't on anyone's radar. the original request hit us as "make the kids catalog terminals just search the kids department" |
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csharp |
gotcha - makes sense |
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jeff_ |
we're on 2.2, so we don't even have copy location groups, so we just emulated groups in the template -- <option value='527,531,530,532,791,795,529,793,528,794,792,571,516,593,771,770,542,589,549'>Juvenile</option> |
| 10:15 |
Dyrcona |
jeff_: Take a look at OpenILS::Utils::Normalize::clean_marc in master. It will have some tricks you might to use. |
| 10:16 |
jeff_ |
it is likely less performant than copy location groups, but I've not tested |
| 10:16 |
jeff_ |
Dyrcona: thanks! |
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csharp |
jeff_: thanks for those details ;-) |
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* rfrasur |
sees an email with the subject "mobile OPAC testing" from jboyer-isl - looks very interesting |
| 10:23 |
gmcharlt |
testing the OPAC from the bookmobile? |
| 10:23 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl: I have story time at 10:30 but will test on a variety of screens after I get done with that. Probably around 11:30. |
| 10:23 |
gmcharlt |
;) |
| 10:23 |
rfrasur |
gmcharlt++ # maybe |
| 10:24 |
rfrasur |
as an unrelated aside - when your mother and brother endorse you on Linkdin, it kind of takes some of the professionalism and credibility away. |
| 10:25 |
rfrasur |
well, at least in my case. Maybe you have very professional and credible relatives. |
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* dbs |
wishes jboyer_isl didn't have to recreate all the stuff we did for 2.4 for the 2.2 world :/ |
| 10:27 |
rfrasur |
so, dbs, are you saying that mobile OPAC...ie. responsive TPAC is part of the 2.4 package? |
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* rfrasur |
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| 10:29 |
dbs |
rfrasur: a lot of it is, if you add in the branch that I posted a few months ago |
| 10:29 |
jboyer_isl |
dbs: Schedules will be schedules. :/ at least it only took a couple of concentrated hours to get to the point where I'm calling it done until 2.4. |
| 10:38 |
jboyer-isl |
Also, I forgot: your "rough draft" was a great start. |
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dbs |
jboyer-isl: thanks, that branch _is_ rough, but illustrative at least :) I was mostly thinking of the font / colour stuff that was already separated out in 2.4 (not necessarily optimally, but at least a decent start) |
| 10:41 |
jboyer-isl |
Ah, yeah that part was a little annoying. A little time with calc.exe took care of that. :) |
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kmlussier |
jeff_: 2.2 should have copy location groups. I know we were using them in 2.2. |
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jeff_ |
kmlussier: ah. i might be confusing which aspect 2.2 lacked, then. i'm fairly certain there was a feature which kpac relied on which 2.2 did not have. |
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* dbs |
trying to suss out exactly how we want "foreign copies" to appear in record display. Right now they don't appear, I'm thinking that we might want to have a special section for them at the top of the record copy table with "Part of" peer_type / parent_bib.title / parent_bib.author (linked to display that parent bib) for the child records |
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dbs |
And then have the parent bib display the peer type / title / author for each child bib, linked to display each child bib. |
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* dbs |
thinks he can avoid most of the overhead of the current branch |
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bshum |
parts-- |
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bshum |
kmlussier: Our pain begins early this week. |
| 11:20 |
Dyrcona |
To elebenty and beyond! |
| 11:21 |
Dyrcona |
kmlussier: My development VM is working if you're interested in testing things. |
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bshum |
senator: Dyrcona: To verify, the branch I should look at for the browse stuff is collab/dyrcona/bib-auth-browse-squash, right? |
| 11:38 |
senator |
bshum: right |
| 11:38 |
bshum |
(We're rebasing our test servers today and I'm going to add it again to the mix) |
| 11:38 |
bshum |
Cool deal. |
| 11:39 |
bshum |
And also, holy cow that's alot o' commits |
| 11:39 |
Dyrcona |
bshum: There's a small conflict with master at the moment, just keep both parts. |
| 11:39 |
bshum |
:D |
| 11:39 |
senator |
bshum: i think when all parties are reasonably happy with it, it can be squashed way down |
| 11:40 |
bshum |
I figured, I'm just heckling :P |
| 11:40 |
kmlussier |
senator++ for making all parties reasonably happy. :) |
| 11:41 |
bshum |
Agreed, senator++ for his many good deeds. |
| 11:43 |
* senator |
goes back to visiting the elderly and helping schoolchildren cross the street ;-P |
| 11:44 |
dbs |
senator++ # I was thinking squashing that branch would be a good idea :) |
| 11:45 |
dbs |
speaking of squashing, anyone interested in conjoined items / peer bibs might want to poke at bug 1097915 |
| 11:45 |
pinesol_green |
Launchpad bug 1097915 in Evergreen "tpac: conjoined items are not supported" (affected: 2, heat: 14) [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1097915 |
| 11:45 |
bshum |
Dyrcona: Oh okay, the usual, seed data unhappiness and css conflicts. |
| 11:45 |
bshum |
Dyrcona++ #thanks for the warning |
| 11:46 |
dbs |
I'm still not entirely happy with how foreign items are displayed, but it's way better than "not at all" |
| 11:47 |
Dyrcona |
bshum I think there's a conflict in config.tt2 also. |
| 11:47 |
senator |
i'm interesting in making up for not merging anything last week. i also know eeevil has expressed interest in this before. i can't do much today but later in the week one or the other of us will surely take a good luck (which is not to dissuade anybody else from the same) |
| 11:47 |
bshum |
Dyrcona: Yeah I just caught that too, thanks. |
| 11:47 |
senator |
s/good luck/good look/ |
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asimon |
Is there online documentation on how to change server-side settings? |
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dbs |
asimon: there is some, it depends on what settings |
| 11:50 |
dbs |
asimon: the docs try to take a task-oriented approach |
| 11:50 |
asimon |
dbs: ui.patron and url_verify |
| 11:52 |
senator |
asimon: neither of those things are the complete names of any settings, but it sounds like you're talking about library settings, aka org unit settings. you can edit them in the staff client via admin -> local administration -> library settings editor, or in the database in the actor.org_unit_setting table |
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asimon |
senator: The settings I want to change within these settings groups are not available through the staff client. |
| 11:54 |
asimon |
senator: For example: ui.patron.default_ident_type |
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| 11:56 |
senator |
asimon: that should show up in the staff client. if not, there's either a permissions issue or some deeper problem. |
| 11:56 |
bshum |
That should be in the library settings editor. |
| 11:56 |
bshum |
Or at least, it was when we configured it. |
| 11:57 |
dbs |
asimon: maybe your site missed an upgrade ? |
| 11:57 |
dbs |
looks like it's in 1.6.1-2.0-upgrade-db.sql |
| 12:03 |
dbs |
Hey, here's a brilliant idea for a simple perl test... ensure that DEBUG_TIMING == 0. heh :) |
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paxed |
dbs: are peer.title & peer.author already scrubbed of hmtl? |
| 12:07 |
paxed |
blah. html. |
| 12:09 |
dbs |
paxed: no; good catch. gotta prevent those cataloguers from exploiting vulnerabilities :) |
| 12:09 |
paxed |
dbs: well, who knows, maybe some author will name their book <a href="goatse"> ... :P |
| 12:15 |
dbs |
paxed: pushed a nice sanitized branch with a hat-tip to you in the commit message |
| 12:15 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl: testing on galaxy nexus phone...then kindle fire. will try galaxy tab 7 at home later. |
| 12:16 |
rfrasur |
(of course, it'd help if I could remember my password) |
| 12:17 |
jboyer-isl |
Thanks. I was able to do a little testing with someone's random android somethingorother and it looked ok, so I'm hoping things will be good all around. |
| 12:17 |
rfrasur |
so far, it looks good. will take a look in my account and then do a couple searches and do some stuff. |
| 12:17 |
dbs |
jboyer-isl: any of your work headed 2.5 / master's way? |
| 12:19 |
rfrasur |
(figure it's a good chance to see how easy it is to do a password reset from my phone) |
| 12:19 |
jboyer-isl |
Everything that I re-make for 2.4, sure. I haven't actually started that though. D: Need to study up on user/collab branches, because I'm also starting from 0 on that. |
| 12:20 |
jboyer-isl |
rfraur: and you would also be testing a page I forgot to ever even look at. Hope it looks ok, heh. |
| 12:20 |
jboyer-isl |
And I can't type. :/ |
| 12:20 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl: the reset page? it looked fine :) |
| 12:20 |
jboyer-isl |
Lucky us. |
| 12:22 |
jboyer-isl |
Also, I don't know if all of the necessary back end stuff is running for that to actually work. If you need me to change the password on an account let me know. (The dataload is several months old, in case you've changed it recently.) |
| 12:22 |
rfrasur |
oh, I can change it myself in the staff client. I just wanted to try it as a real end user. |
| 12:22 |
* rfrasur |
hasn't received the email yet so will just do it in the staff client and move on. |
| 12:23 |
jboyer-isl |
True, but if you really couldn't remember then the staff client won't help you. :D |
| 12:25 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl: truth. btw, I can log into the OPAC but not the mobile OPAC. Is that expected behavior? |
| 12:26 |
rfrasur |
(was that the backend stuff you were talking about? or the password reset?) |
| 12:27 |
rfrasur |
also, are we foregoing a limited advanced search forever or just for now? |
| 12:28 |
jboyer-isl |
I just meant that the email will never come, and the actual reset may not work if it did. Are you using the same hostname on the desktop vs. mobile? (and NOT letting the keyboard "help" you by auto-capitalizing the first letter of your username? They're ALSO case sensitive...) |
| 12:29 |
jboyer-isl |
I'm personally planning to forego advanced search forever. I'm working off the assumption that it's a hassle to enter things into a bunch of fields. I won't argue with anyone else that wants to take care of it. |
| 12:30 |
rfrasur |
no, I'm using the standing catalog on the desktop (to make sure that I wasn't messing up the log-in). let me try the mobile on the desktop and see what it does there. I'm okay with just the basic search for the same reason you mentioned. |
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rfrasur |
yeah, it's not helping me on the desktop (as you say), and I can't log in on the test site. |
| 12:32 |
rfrasur |
hmm...s/standing/standard |
| 12:37 |
rfrasur |
I do like the library chooser |
| 12:38 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona: Searches on your dev server are quite zippy today. :) |
| 12:38 |
Dyrcona |
kmlussier: It's the new database server. We got one almost identical to what we use in production. |
| 12:39 |
Dyrcona |
Which reminds me of an email I have to answer after lunch. |
| 12:39 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona++ |
| 12:40 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl: search works well as far as I've delved into it. |
| 12:40 |
bshum |
dbwells++ #milestone wrangling |
| 12:41 |
rfrasur |
and records show up nice. can't test the hold placing because of the authentication issue. let me try something with that real quick (sorta quick). |
| 12:43 |
rfrasur |
yeah - no. won't authenticate. |
| 12:49 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Wells] Make AuthProxy LDAP bind code more robust - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=36ea3a2> |
| 12:49 |
pinesol_green |
[evergreen|Dan Wells] Capture and log AuthProxy logins with no account - <http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=Evergreen.git;a=commit;h=be36c3c> |
| 12:52 |
bshum |
Blah, 0795 fails because we apparently don't have a metabib_field entry 30 for LCCN. |
| 12:52 |
bshum |
Sigh. |
| 12:59 |
jboyer-isl |
rfrasur: That is unexpected. Does your browser complain about the certificate at all? There's not a valid one for that machine, but usually you can tell it to throw caution to the wind. |
| 12:59 |
rfrasur |
yes, it did...but I just pushed through with it for the time being. |
| 12:59 |
* rfrasur |
threw caution to the wind |
| 13:05 |
bshum |
Sigh, long reingests make me feel so tired. |
| 13:05 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl: fwiw, I also linked in the mig site to our Fanggle app to see how seamless it'd look/act. Looks good to me. |
| 13:05 |
rfrasur |
bshum: did you eat lunch yet? |
| 13:05 |
bshum |
rfrasur: Good call, off to go buy some lunch. |
| 13:05 |
rfrasur |
;) |
| 13:05 |
rfrasur |
eat something good |
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rfrasur |
(I hate uploading MARC records. Just don't do it enough to ever feel confident.) |
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kmlussier |
Looks like 2 p.m., Eastern tomorrow is the best time for this week's dev meeting. http://www.doodle.com/e9desufeu3fpf738 |
| 13:18 |
kmlussier |
Since bshum can't make it, I'll gladly accept volunteers from anyone who is willing to run the meeting. :) |
| 13:25 |
gmcharlt |
kmlussier: I will offer up myself |
| 13:26 |
kmlussier |
gmcharlt++ |
| 13:29 |
kmlussier |
Preliminary agenda: http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2013-07-15. Feel free to add stuff there. |
| 13:30 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl:Do you have any more guidance about the authentication issue or should I just let it rest for now? |
| 13:31 |
jboyer-isl |
The only thing I can think of is making sure it doesn't capitalize something it shouldn't. It's possible that the browser you're using just won't play ball with a busted certifitcate. |
| 13:34 |
rfrasur |
hmm, let me try some other browsers then? |
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paxed |
do people remove the bug assignment once they've released a fix for it? |
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jboyer-isl |
I'm more interested in how Chrome likes it than "Browser," but I was able to log in with someone else's phone using Browser. |
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rfrasur |
I'm testing Chrome right now. Browser didn't work on phone...and neither did Firefox on desktop. Maybe I need to clear out the cache and start over. |
| 13:41 |
bshum |
kmlussier: I'll be here and there. But yeah, in a phone call during the meeting, so I might be a little more distant than I'd like :( |
| 13:41 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl:fail on phone using chrome |
| 13:41 |
kmlussier |
bshum: A little difficult to run a meeting that way. :) |
| 13:42 |
bshum |
Oh no, definitely not running it at all. gmcharlt++ |
| 13:42 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl: same on desktop |
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* paxed |
didn't bother answering the poll once again, as he's almost always available around that time of the evening ... |
| 13:44 |
jboyer-isl |
Bizzare. I didn't touch anything but css and sprinkle around one or two little <br>'s. Not sure why it won't let you in. Did you reset the password on that account? Also, are you using it's username and not barcode? |
| 13:44 |
rfrasur |
I was using username and password. Then I reset to barcode and PIN and it behaves the same. |
| 13:45 |
rfrasur |
and it's mig.evergreen.lib.in.us, correct? |
| 13:45 |
kmlussier |
paxed++ |
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jboyer-isl |
That's the place. Maybe try a new patron account to see what it does? |
| 13:59 |
rfrasur |
EG and I may not be getting along with one another today. |
| 14:03 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl: it must be my account. logged in just fine w/ a staff profile account. |
| 14:04 |
rfrasur |
(EG and I are gonna fight...that's all there is to it) |
| 14:04 |
jboyer-isl |
That'll work just as well. |
| 14:06 |
rfrasur |
I'm concerned about it logging in a patron account though (and why mine isn't working). Gonna try a few diff type accounts. |
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jboyer-isl |
It's possible they're all disabled in case a patron tried to play with it., I've not looked at it. |
| 14:09 |
jboyer-isl |
disabled because it's the migration server, that is. |
| 14:10 |
rfrasur |
ahhh, I gotcha. You're probably right. Are you testing it with a staff profile account I'm assuming? |
| 14:10 |
jboyer-isl |
yes. |
| 14:10 |
jboyer-isl |
They act the same in the OPAC anyway. |
| 14:11 |
rfrasur |
except when they're disabled :-) |
| 14:11 |
jboyer-isl |
Too true. |
| 14:12 |
* rfrasur |
takes a deep breath and recites, "I love Evergreen all day, every day with no exceptions ever." |
| 14:12 |
rfrasur |
@loves |
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pinesol_green |
rfrasur loves google; pinesol_green; overcast days; Evergreen; Ze Internetz!; chocolate; Fridays; and minions |
| 14:13 |
pastebot |
"Dyrcona" at 204.193.129.146 pasted "Searching two subfields in a marc search" (25 lines) at http://paste.evergreen-ils.org/14 |
| 14:13 |
paxed |
@loves |
| 14:13 |
pinesol_green |
paxed: paxed doesn't seem to love anything. |
| 14:13 |
paxed |
ha |
| 14:13 |
Dyrcona |
The question is in the paste. Unfortunately, I didn't realize it would not wrap. |
| 14:14 |
rfrasur |
paxed++ |
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Dyrcona |
Well, I'm going to rig an experiment to test my question. |
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rfrasur |
Do any of you know anything about this study "The Survey of Library Use of Open Source Software?" |
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rfrasur |
jboyer-isl: what about being able to see/change how the search result list is sorted? |
| 16:14 |
jboyer-isl |
It's a possibility. Most of that section was wiped out because it was just too big to have at the top of every single search page. I'll keep a note that there's some interest though. |
| 16:15 |
rfrasur |
Just kinda noting as I pick through. Not demanding...just noting. |
| 16:16 |
jboyer-isl |
Me too. I'm not promising I'll do it. :D |
| 16:17 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl++ |
| 16:17 |
jboyer-isl |
An email might be good for feedback though, I'll be out of here shortly and won't see anything else you might notice. |
| 16:19 |
rfrasur |
okay - I'm leaving soon as well. Not sure that I'll mess with it tonight...oh wait. I will..on the Tab. Okay, and this is a responsive version, right? |
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* bshum |
pokes jeff, re: overdrive API email on general list :D |
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* rfrasur |
was thinking he might know something as well. |
| 16:23 |
bshum |
jeff and I have chatted before about some stuff he's been toying with in that area, but I know he's been busy with NCIP and other projects. |
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rfrasur |
you two are too cool for school (yeah, I said it) |
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* rfrasur |
can't even log into a stupid OPAC today. |
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rfrasur |
oy, this day has been too long and completely unproductive (other than very cute cookies being made earlier). |
| 16:25 |
jeff___ |
bshum: thanks. been a busy day. i'll try to take a look-see and respond later this evening or tomorrow. |
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jeff___ |
oof. i've grown a nick-tail. |
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jeff |
now if i could just determine why my laptop is refusing to wake... twice so far today. |
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Dyrcona |
Mine always refuses to go to sleep, which is fun when you open it a day later and the battery is dead. |
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* tsbere |
has a habit of hibernating his laptops, due to previous issues with his first laptop coming out of sleep mode for no apparent reason |
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rfrasur: Well, ir "Repsonds" to things smaller than 600 pixels across differently than things larger than that, but that's it ATM. |
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bshum |
@later tell kmlussier Hmm, when you have time, take a look at the Evergreen Facebook page's messages. Something new there; I added a short reply. |
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