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Dyrcona |
Whee! Kernel updates. BBL. |
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Dyrcona |
@eightball Maybe things will be better in Montevideo? |
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pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: One would be wise to think so. |
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Dyrcona |
Another reason to ditch xulrunner: I sometimes get scroll bars when I need them in the staff client, and I sometimes don't. Seems to be no rhyme or reason to it, either. |
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dbs |
Dyrcona: on the same screens, or across different screens? there are often simple XUL attributes that control that sort of thing, if it's on particular screens |
| 09:48 |
Dyrcona |
dbs: I'll have to do some more digging. I know that on a couple of screens, I never get horizontal scroll bars. Vertical scroll bars seem to be more reliable. |
| 09:48 |
Dyrcona |
I'm using xulrunner on Linux, too. I should compare it with a windows client. |
| 09:50 |
dbs |
Dyrcona: I think it's probably just not optimal XUL; might have been designed to contain one or two elements originally, and then over time added more elements (or longer labels). |
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dbs |
I fixed a few problems in the past, but there are likely plenty more to handle. there are explicit <scrollbar> elements you can add, too |
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mmorgan |
Configure Toolbars screen is a good example. I don't get horizontal or vertical scrollbars there. The save button is in the lower right corner, and some users can't save because of their screen resolution. |
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dbs |
I think the mantra is flex=1 style="overflow: auto" for xul elements that you want to be able to scroll, if they're cramped |
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* dbs |
heads out |
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bshum |
Dyrcona: I get that issue with no horizontal scroll bars in the item status screen when viewing the details. |
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phasefx |
mmorgan: I tried to add a scrollbar just now to that interface and it actually covers up the Save button when it appears :) |
| 10:28 |
bshum |
Sometimes the info I'm looking for can be in the far right of the screen. On smaller resolutions. |
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bshum |
Used to drive me nuts when my laptops had lower resolution. |
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mmorgan |
phasefx: thanks for trying anyway! |
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paxed |
ugh. yeah, trying to use some of those UIs on a mini laptop is painful... |
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Dyrcona |
Never mind a laptop. A lot of our staff like to use 1024 x 768 or whatever on workstations. Older eyes, you know. |
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Dyrcona |
My laptop is 1366 x 768. |
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bshum |
1920 x 1080. My poor eyes :( |
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mmorgan |
So when you add a scrollbar to a screen that doesn't have one, and it covers up pertinent parts of the screen, is that xulrunner's fault? |
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Dyrcona |
bshum: I like the higher resolutions, what I quoted is the best this laptop will do. |
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csharp |
Dyrcona: same here with the 1024 x 768 |
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Dyrcona |
mmorgan: Probably. |
| 11:00 |
csharp |
when we moved the the horizontal patron display, we got lots o' complaints |
| 11:00 |
mmorgan |
Or can the screens have enough padding built in so that that doesn't happen? |
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Dyrcona |
mmorgan: Probably. ;) |
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paxed |
i'm at 1024x600 |
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bshum |
csharp: Horizontal patron display makes me sad. |
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* Dyrcona |
feels the urge to write a blog post about matching incoming MARC records with existing records in your database. |
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rfrasur |
on a Friday? after a holiday? |
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mmorgan |
Dyrcona: I would be interested in reading that. |
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rfrasur |
Dyrcona: If you write it, I'll read it - but I can't guarantee any enthusiasm until Monday. |
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Dyrcona |
Well, I should see how the software to do it goes, first. |
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paxed |
i finally managed to convince olli-antti that not everything needs to be done during database conversion... so now we'll normalize author name etc. after we've converted our db from the old system to eg. so much more easier... |
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mmorgan |
I 'm puzzled by titles that show in the client with spaces that shouldn't be there, like "A da nce with dragons" or "Ma x and Ruby" |
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rfrasur |
That generally has to do w/ an incorrect indicator mmorgan |
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rfrasur |
for the "A da nce w/ dragons" they have an indicator of 4 when it should be 2....A+ a space (4 for the + a space) |
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rfrasur |
And "Ma x and Ruby" there's an indicator of 2 when it should be 0 |
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mmorgan |
rfrasur: Thanks! That's it. Should have thought to look there. |
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mmorgan |
rfrasur ++ |
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rfrasur |
no worries ;) - glad to know ONE thing of value today :D |
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dbs |
rfrasur++ |
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Dyrcona |
Whee! Fun with SSH tunnels! |
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bshum |
Dyrcona: Whee! |
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Dyrcona |
I can now access the fileserver at our central site from anywhere via SMB. |
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Dyrcona |
Combine that with the remote tunnel that will forward all vnc from my workstation to the laptop, and I don't need an office any more! |
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mcooper |
i love ssh tunnels =) |
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Dyrcona |
Yes, they are great for unencrypted protocols, like SIP2. |
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csharp |
have people encountered an upper file size limit for vandelay imports? |
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csharp |
I just successfully imported a 671KB file but it's not working on a 5871KB file (from the same source) |
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csharp |
it hangs on Uploading... |
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csharp |
I'm watching ls -l on the importer directory (NFS-shared) nothing there |
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paxed |
perhaps apache LimitRequestBody? |
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csharp |
I don't see that setting set in my apache config |
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bshum |
csharp: If I recall that was one of the reasons why we ended up upping the ejabberd limits. |
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csharp |
ah |
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bshum |
Because the original size was too small for certain sized MARC data |
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bshum |
So we increased by a factor of 10 back then |
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bshum |
But I don't know what to recommend on that front :( |
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bshum |
If any |
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csharp |
wouldn't I see something in the ejabberd logs about that? |
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bshum |
I think so. |
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* csharp |
doesn't see anything useful there :-/ |
| 14:15 |
bshum |
I might be leading you astray, if you're not even seeing it load into the tmp directory that seems to be a bigger issue actually. |
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csharp |
I did see the smaller file load there |
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csharp |
oh! |
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bshum |
Not any stray brick config right? |
| 14:16 |
csharp |
it loaded |
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csharp |
hmmm |
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bshum |
That's happened to me before where it disappeared into a single brick instead of into the share. |
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bshum |
Because the brick had lost its NFS connection or whatnot. |
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bshum |
Probably unrelated. |
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csharp |
the interface just loaded with the data there, so I guess I wasn't giving it enough time (3+ mins |
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csharp |
) |
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Dyrcona |
How many records are in that file? |
| 14:17 |
csharp |
9800 records in the queue |
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Dyrcona |
Ah, well there's my answer. |
| 14:19 |
csharp |
okay, so that took about 10 mins according to the logs |
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Dyrcona |
Vandelay is not know for speed. |
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bshum |
Indeed. Or for being happy with large batches of things. |
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csharp |
too bad that all PINES *is* is large batches of things ;-) |
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Dyrcona |
csharp: What are these records for? |
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csharp |
so is vandelay the best method of auth record import? |
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csharp |
authority record updates |
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Dyrcona |
csharp: In my opinion, no it isn't. |
| 14:24 |
csharp |
right now I'm just testing whether import works for us at all with the files I have in hand |
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csharp |
not testing matching, etc. yet |
| 14:25 |
csharp |
Dyrcona: what would you recommend? (I was just looking at your BSLW tools) |
| 14:25 |
Dyrcona |
csharp: I was going to say, that I write my own tools for those sorts of things. |
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csharp |
the auth recs we have are from BSLW, incidentally |
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* Dyrcona |
shoots at stray commas. |
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Dyrcona |
The BSLWimport.pl is designed for a rather specific work flow based on how Backstage puts files on their FTP server. |
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Dyrcona |
It could be adapted, but it assumes the files are zipped, etc. |
| 14:29 |
Dyrcona |
csharp: Don't let me stop from testing if Vandelay will work for you. It is certainly worth your time to find out. |
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Dyrcona |
There oughta be a "you" in there somewhere. |
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csharp |
thanks |
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jrshaw |
Still trying to install Evergreen 2.4 on a Virtualbox Ubuntu server 12.04LTS. I read and re-read the install documentation for OpenSRF and still cannot find the recommended location for the tarball and where to unpack it. Suggestions? |
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jrshaw |
OpenSRF v2.2 |
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jrshaw |
http://evergreen-ils.org/documentation/release/OpenSRF/RELEASE_NOTES_2_2_0.html |
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jrshaw |
http://evergreen-ils.org/documentation/install/OpenSRF/README_2_2_0.html |
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phasefx |
jrshaw: any user should be fine for the tarball and resulting package |
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Dyrcona |
jrshaw: I usually do everything (almost) from the opensrf user home directory. |
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* phasefx |
does too |
| 16:57 |
Dyrcona |
The only thing I do differently is I "sudo -i" to become root before installing the prerequisites. |
| 16:57 |
Dyrcona |
I also install the prerequisites for both OpenSRF and Evergreen before installing either package. |
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jrshaw |
In the developers release for debian squeeze circa 2011 they park everything in /home/evergreen/OpenSRF-trunk Is that a good place or recommended place? |
| 16:59 |
phasefx |
sure. In the end, it's the make install that's going to put things where they ultimately need to go, and that has to be done as root (or with sudo) and can be done from anywhere |
| 17:01 |
Dyrcona |
jrshaw: If you extract the tarballs in your home directory, you will get 1 directory for OpenSRF and 1 for Evergreen, that is what I recommend. |
| 17:01 |
Dyrcona |
In my case, I have /home/opensrf/OpenSRF/ and /home/opensrf/Evergreen/ |
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jrshaw |
Dyrcona: That's the clarity I needed. Thanks. |
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phasefx |
Dyrcona++ |
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* jrshaw |
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