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* paxed |
curses GD |
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mrpeters |
@later tell jrshaw I don't think there is a newer VM available but installing OpenSRF/Evergreen is very straightforward with the great documentation available these days. You could create your own VM quite quickly. |
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pinesol_green` |
mrpeters: The operation succeeded. |
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paxed |
in http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.3/_recent_staff_searches_2.html the resencd searches list in the image show only the actual search term, none of the depth() or subject: or others. is that a config option or has it changed? |
| 09:15 |
paxed |
s/recencd/recent/ |
| 09:16 |
paxed |
(or is the library that image is from using some local changes?) |
| 09:22 |
Dyrcona |
Always a fun way to start your morning: Could not authenticate with Jabber server |
| 09:24 |
Dyrcona |
Ah. Stupid network changes... I believe I'm going to have to use -l from now on. |
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rjackson-isl |
dbs++ for response to max children yesterday - the errors/warning are gone from the 1 brick of 5 sip servers where opensrf.xml was modified |
| 09:33 |
Dyrcona |
rjackson-isl: Yeah, we found several of the defaults were too low for our environment initially. |
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rjackson-isl |
Ours I think are from growth pains - they were marked higher than default |
| 09:38 |
mrpeters |
rjackson-isl: what'd you find? |
| 09:38 |
mrpeters |
they needed some increasing? |
| 09:38 |
rjackson-isl |
cstore was running out of children |
| 09:39 |
mrpeters |
ah, wonder if thats what caused your resource starvation yesterday |
| 09:39 |
mrpeters |
nice work |
| 09:39 |
mrpeters |
hows your system running today? loads down? |
| 09:39 |
rjackson-isl |
work in progress more like! |
| 09:39 |
mrpeters |
well either way, good catch |
| 09:39 |
rjackson-isl |
right - the holds targeter is caugt up as well - same issue on utility server |
| 09:39 |
rfrasur |
(it doesn't help that our isp is giving us issues) |
| 09:40 |
mrpeters |
out of cstores on utility? |
| 09:40 |
rjackson-isl |
right |
| 09:40 |
rjackson-isl |
bumped in config last night |
| 09:40 |
mrpeters |
interesting...how many libraries added recently? |
| 09:40 |
rjackson-isl |
not many - but suspect rfid devices and increased SIP usage as well |
| 09:40 |
rfrasur |
rjackson-isl |
| 09:41 |
mrpeters |
ah, yeah |
| 09:41 |
rjackson-isl |
plus 260 g db and 256 g memory |
| 09:41 |
rfrasur |
rjackson-isl++ #even |
| 09:41 |
rfrasur |
mrpeters: a bunch of libs just recently added freegal |
| 09:41 |
mrpeters |
rjackson-isl: yeah, i heard that |
| 09:41 |
rjackson-isl |
adjusting the rest of the configs for SIP tonight |
| 09:41 |
csharp |
okay - so I'm back to working on bug 1190279 regarding the ubuntu targets... |
| 09:41 |
pinesol_green` |
Launchpad bug 1190279 in Evergreen "Modularize Makefile.install" (affected: 1, heat: 6) [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1190279 |
| 09:42 |
csharp |
apparently, the order of deb vs. cpan installation matters (unless I'm overlooking something, which is very likely) |
| 09:43 |
rfrasur |
(seriously Comcast? you can't get someone here before Friday? how much do we pay you?) |
| 09:43 |
csharp |
so when I run the modular version for ubuntu-precise (see http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Evergreen.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/user/csharp/ubuntu-per-distro-makefile ) and cpan installation craps out on SOAP::Lite (IIRC) |
| 09:44 |
csharp |
the deb lists between the modular version and the current Makefile.install are identical, but the modular version installs all debs first |
| 09:45 |
rfrasur |
(that's what I thought...see you this afternoon :p) |
| 09:45 |
csharp |
the CPAN list for the modular version (based on berick's wheezy target) includes Safe, which is not in the current Makefile.install |
| 09:45 |
csharp |
but those are the only differences I see |
| 09:45 |
csharp |
Ubuntu 10.04 worked fine in my test |
| 09:51 |
berick |
csharp: odd, maybe the debs are installing a version of something some other cpan module doesn't like. |
| 09:51 |
berick |
that when done in reverse, cpan never has a chance to complain |
| 09:52 |
berick |
because it just installs its own dependencies, finding none already there |
| 09:52 |
mrpeters |
rfrasur: business class? |
| 09:53 |
csharp |
berick: that's my working theory too |
| 09:54 |
csharp |
I'll run it again and pastebin the output - hopefully others will see something I'm missing ;-) |
| 09:54 |
berick |
csharp++ |
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mrpeters |
rjackson-isl: you guys should give some thought to doing a pg_dump > pg_restore to see if that clears out some of the cruft in the database from migrations and stuff |
| 09:54 |
mrpeters |
i also tried to sweet talk dbs into updating his blog article on heating the cache to include some of the new tables of interest ;) |
| 09:55 |
rfrasur |
mrpeters: sorry, yes. |
| 09:55 |
mrpeters |
man, they should be out there same day |
| 09:55 |
mrpeters |
i would be barking hard |
| 09:55 |
rfrasur |
mrpeters: they'll be here at noon |
| 09:56 |
mrpeters |
:) nice work |
| 09:56 |
* rfrasur |
barks loudly when necessary |
| 09:56 |
bshum |
mrpeters: I recently got about 20+ GB of space back last Sunday by deleting old auditor table contents out of copy, call number, and biblio. It made me happy. |
| 09:56 |
mrpeters |
bshum: yeah, for sure...i think rjackson-isl may alreayd have a mechanism for purging old auditor stuff |
| 09:56 |
bshum |
mrpeters: And then we dropped some old migration schemas with legacy data and got another 10 GB or so, and that was nice too. |
| 09:56 |
rfrasur |
mrpeters: I should say, it's fantastic service when it works which is very nearly all of the time. |
| 09:56 |
mrpeters |
yeah, same here rfrasur...i have it as well at home |
| 09:56 |
bshum |
mrpeters: Ah, that's a big database :D |
| 09:57 |
* rfrasur |
is mildly infatuated w/ real broadband - another downside of living in the country (along w/ tractors, mice, dust and meth) |
| 09:58 |
mrpeters |
i <3 my comcast -- http://stage.results.speedtest.comcast.net/result/275493412.png |
| 09:59 |
csharp |
@nick pinesol_green |
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pinesol_green` |
csharp: Error: You don't have the admin capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified. |
| 09:59 |
csharp |
@quote add * rfrasur is mildly infatuated w/ real broadband - another downside of living in the country (along w/ tractors, mice, dust and meth) |
| 09:59 |
pinesol_green` |
csharp: The operation succeeded. Quote #60 added. |
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* rfrasur |
squelches real feelings of jealousy |
| 09:59 |
bshum |
I got it. |
| 09:59 |
csharp |
bshum++ |
| 09:59 |
mrpeters |
hehe rfrasur...whats yours look like? |
| 10:00 |
csharp |
@quote random |
| 10:00 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: Quote #47: "< Dyrcona> The latest Perl is dying post I've seen is in a discussion thread in the Emacs community on G+." (added by csharp at 03:11 PM, March 27, 2013) |
| 10:00 |
rfrasur |
how do I check it using the same thing? just speedtest.comcast.net? |
| 10:01 |
rfrasur |
and did you go tthrough chicago? |
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| 10:01 |
rfrasur |
http://stage.results.speedtest.comcast.net/result/275494462.png |
| 10:02 |
mrpeters |
not bad |
| 10:02 |
mrpeters |
yes, through chicago |
| 10:02 |
rfrasur |
yours is better |
| 10:03 |
rfrasur |
(stupid obsolete infrastructure) |
| 10:07 |
rfrasur |
good to know that I can check speed there though...since I'll need it for annual report (and it's better than advertised...just not as awesome as 100+ mbps) |
| 10:10 |
mrpeters |
yeah, im on their Extreme package, its like $99.95 a month but Emerald covers it for me so I have a reliable and fast connection. |
| 10:10 |
mrpeters |
they recently doubled it from 50Mbps to 100Mbps |
| 10:10 |
Dyrcona |
Lovely.... None of my bookmarks or anything work for my development VM from the LAN.....I have to use the IP address.... |
| 10:10 |
rfrasur |
hmm, I'll ask about that. We pay just over $100...but that includes a static IP and a few other things. |
| 10:11 |
mrpeters |
yeah they'll getcha for the static IP |
| 10:11 |
Dyrcona |
Stupid NAT! |
| 10:12 |
csharp |
@blame NAT |
| 10:12 |
pinesol_green |
csharp: NAT stole csharp's ice cream! |
| 10:12 |
rfrasur |
it's not terribly bad...I think $18 or something a month. Honestly, our internet isn't bad for an institution...and generally as/more reliable...and as/more fast....er |
| 10:12 |
Dyrcona |
There's a way to configure it so it works, but the CISCO configuration agent refuses to run on my computers..... |
| 10:12 |
Dyrcona |
I would rather have an OpenBSD firewall, but I'm out voted on that front. |
| 10:12 |
csharp |
cisco-- |
| 10:12 |
rfrasur |
(at home - we have wireless...the new crap sold out of the back of a truck along with oranges and stump removal services) |
| 10:14 |
* paxed |
thought "stump removal? don't you need prosthe ... ooohh." |
| 10:14 |
rfrasur |
paxed++ |
| 10:15 |
rfrasur |
my work here is done |
| 10:15 |
paxed |
(not that i think there's any illegal surgieries done in the back of trucks over there ...) |
| 10:18 |
rfrasur |
paxed: one never knows |
| 10:29 |
rfrasur |
oh man...I love it when my past self was smarter than my current one. |
| 10:29 |
* rfrasur |
thanks past self |
| 10:34 |
paxed |
hm. looks like i'm going to be temporarily laid off. |
| 10:35 |
paxed |
3 weeks sometime between Aug and the end of the year. |
| 10:39 |
rfrasur |
paxed: reason? |
| 10:39 |
rjackson-isl |
sorry - was not following - yes mrpeters we still have the audit purge monthly in place and it dropped about 20g on the 1st |
| 10:39 |
mrpeters |
awesome |
| 10:40 |
mrpeters |
maybe need to do it even more often |
| 10:40 |
mrpeters |
im not sure that box can take anymore RAM |
| 10:40 |
mrpeters |
unless you bought all new RAM in larger quantities |
| 10:40 |
rjackson-isl |
and the migration schemas are dropped regularly after a migration is proven to be sane |
| 10:41 |
paxed |
rfrasur: in short, my employer needs to save a lot of money this year due to their largest owner (the city) saying so. |
| 10:41 |
rfrasur |
paxed: is it possible for them to allow you to pick when to take the layoff? |
| 10:43 |
paxed |
yes |
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mrpeters |
sorry for your misfortune paxed |
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paxed |
mrpeters: i'm taking it as "o hay, moar vacay time" |
| 10:51 |
mrpeters |
good :) |
| 10:51 |
* rfrasur |
ponders three weeks off...would it be better to have it contiguous or a bit here and there? |
| 10:52 |
rfrasur |
I think I might find that I enjoyed my own time TOO much if it was all at the same time. |
| 10:53 |
paxed |
i'm saving some of my vacay (and "vacay") until winter... last winter i spent helping a friend run dog sled rides for tourists. |
| 10:54 |
rfrasur |
you do realize just how cool that is, I hope |
| 10:54 |
* rfrasur |
misses snow....REAL snow...and FUN winter |
| 10:54 |
rfrasur |
Indiana is good for just about everything but winter which is just ugly and sad |
| 10:55 |
paxed |
http://bilious.alt.org/~paxed/img/dogs_jatuni.jpg |
| 10:55 |
Dyrcona |
rfrasur: Considering he does this in the North Karelia, it is down right frigid. |
| 10:55 |
rfrasur |
Cold I don't mind so long as there's slow and a lot of it. |
| 10:56 |
rfrasur |
hmm s/slow/snow |
| 10:56 |
rfrasur |
and maybe some slow too |
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* rfrasur |
shrugs |
| 10:56 |
Dyrcona |
sloe gin.... |
| 10:56 |
rfrasur |
those are cool dogs |
| 10:56 |
rfrasur |
hah! cold dogs |
| 10:56 |
Dyrcona |
I see what you did there. |
| 10:57 |
rfrasur |
multitalented with the word play and all that...er. okay, it was lame. |
| 10:58 |
rfrasur |
It that right up against Russia? |
| 10:58 |
rfrasur |
huh, tis |
| 10:58 |
paxed |
rfrasur: in that picture, that's Sweden on the other side of the river |
| 10:59 |
Dyrcona |
Oh, my mistake, then. I thought you were in the North Karelia. |
| 10:59 |
paxed |
i am. |
| 10:59 |
Dyrcona |
OK, then. I just assumed that is where the sledding took place, then. |
| 11:00 |
paxed |
:) |
| 11:00 |
paxed |
http://goo.gl/maps/5Fl7r where i am. where the picture was taken: http://goo.gl/maps/1H3Y1 |
| 11:02 |
Dyrcona |
Either way, that says "cold" to me. ;) |
| 11:02 |
rfrasur |
meh...you just need insulation and fire |
| 11:03 |
rfrasur |
and snow shoes are helpful (and cross country skis) |
| 11:03 |
paxed |
triple glazing is good. |
| 11:03 |
rfrasur |
triple_glazing++ |
| 11:03 |
rfrasur |
truth |
| 11:05 |
rfrasur |
so, I have a question about Xulrunner...not a technical one though. |
| 11:06 |
rfrasur |
First, am I right in assuming that it was initially developed by Mozilla and has something to do with Firefox? |
| 11:06 |
rfrasur |
(hah...A question...a series of questions) |
| 11:06 |
paxed |
yes |
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rfrasur |
Next, did I read correctly that they're going to phase out support for it or updating? |
| 11:09 |
paxed |
not really, as firefox runs on top of it. but, iirc, in newest versions they've turned off remote XUL (which EG relies on). |
| 11:09 |
rfrasur |
so, does that mean that EG will need to rely on something else? |
| 11:10 |
rfrasur |
and, if so, is there something else yet? |
| 11:10 |
paxed |
assuming we start using the newer xulrunner, then something has to be done about it. |
| 11:11 |
paxed |
in theory we could always fork xulrunner |
| 11:11 |
paxed |
(but that wouldn't be practical) |
| 11:11 |
rfrasur |
but then we'd need more developers to deal with that...or demand more from the ones we have |
| 11:11 |
rfrasur |
right? |
| 11:11 |
paxed |
yup |
| 11:11 |
phasefx |
tsbere already worked around the no remote xul limitation, with a hack creating an oils:// protocol, but it's still going to be a battle going forward trying to stay on the latest version |
| 11:12 |
Dyrcona |
So, we ditch xulrunner. I think that is the only viable long term solution. |
| 11:12 |
jeff |
that is the approach which i am interested in spending my time on. |
| 11:12 |
rfrasur |
Dyrcona: and do what? is there a logical other way to go? |
| 11:12 |
phasefx |
I think so, have to either ride the mainstream wave or pick a more stable platform |
| 11:12 |
rfrasur |
jeff: the ditching approach? |
| 11:13 |
jeff |
the orderly transition to more web-based staff interfaces. |
| 11:13 |
paxed |
rfrasur: rewrite the xulrunnery parts in tpac/dojo/whatever |
| 11:13 |
rfrasur |
not to oversimplify...but that seems like a fairly huge undertaking |
| 11:14 |
jeff |
there are known challenges, which have been discussed with some alternatives proposed -- such as offline support (html5 offline apps, local storage) and receipt printing (local helper application to handle printing, and added support for network receipt printers) |
| 11:14 |
Dyrcona |
rfrasur: Whatever choice is made it will be a huge undertaking. Even sticking with xulrunner. |
| 11:14 |
Dyrcona |
Right now, we can really go past XulRunner 14 without major work to the code. |
| 11:14 |
Dyrcona |
s/can/can't/ |
| 11:15 |
Dyrcona |
The farther from 14 you get, the more work is needed. |
| 11:15 |
rfrasur |
Dyrcona: if it's a constant race to keep up with xulrunner...seems like spitting into the wind. At least from my "no-knowledge" standpoint |
| 11:16 |
rfrasur |
and an expensive race at that |
| 11:16 |
Dyrcona |
rfrasur: Right, that's why alternatives to xulrunner are being sought. |
| 11:16 |
phasefx |
rfrasur: and if we don't try to keep up with xulrunner and stick with xulrunner 14; it'll eventually bitrot as the environment around it evolves |
| 11:17 |
rfrasur |
phasefx: yes, of course. |
| 11:17 |
rfrasur |
Dyrcona: is there any kind of timeline as far as when a decision will HAVE to be made? |
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paxed |
not really. i'd guess we could coast along for a year or two just fine. |
| 11:18 |
jrshaw |
@mrpeters 7:26:15 Sorry to disappoint but I have to disagree with you. The install is not “straightforwardâ€� and the documentation is not “greatâ€� according to my personal experience and a friendly local Linux users group who had the opportunity on Saturday (6/29) to pour over an attempted but unsuccessful install. That being said, how does one improve this? Notice I didn’t say fix. For to those who use this everyday itâ |
| 11:18 |
pinesol_green |
jrshaw: I see nothing, I know nothing! |
| 11:18 |
jrshaw |
I from the outside am finding the overlooked holes. I want to help the project out. I want to contribute and work out the rough edges that otherwise would force me and others to look elsewhere. I know in my heart this is a sound package when running. But for someone without the knowledge and expertise of experience, there is a disconnect with the installation documentation. So let’s work together to improve upon that. |
| 11:18 |
jrshaw |
So give me some patient and sage guidance on how I can work within the system to contribute my “lack of knowledge” to improve the online install documentation so that others behind me who are just kicking the tires--don’t quickly run into roadblocks that dissuade them from Open Source in General and OpenSRF/Evergreen specifically. |
| 11:18 |
jeff_ |
jrshaw: your message was truncated at "who use this everyday it" |
| 11:19 |
jrshaw |
Rats, I was trying to keep them just under the limit... |
| 11:19 |
jrshaw |
... Notice I didn’t say fix. For to those who use this everyday it’s not broken. |
| 11:20 |
rfrasur |
we know :-) |
| 11:20 |
jrshaw |
So how can I help? |
| 11:20 |
rfrasur |
jrshaw++ #for wanting to help and articulating it |
| 11:20 |
rfrasur |
have you done a successful install, jrshaw? |
| 11:21 |
jrshaw |
Newbie here. Please translate: jrshaw++ #for |
| 11:21 |
jeff_ |
jrshaw: The installation of OpenSRF and Evergreen, while it has improved greatly over the years, can still be challenging. If you're interested in helping, specific feedback is helpful, as are contributions along the lines of changes or patches. How you contribute depends a lot on what you are comfortable with. |
| 11:21 |
rfrasur |
you got karma points :D |
| 11:23 |
jeff_ |
jrshaw: $variable++ is a common programming convention for saying "take this variable and increment it by one" -- on irc, nickname++ is often used to show appreciation -- there are sometimes bots which track such increments as "karma" |
| 11:23 |
jeff_ |
@karma jrshaw |
| 11:23 |
pinesol_green |
jeff_: Karma for "jrshaw" has been increased 2 times and decreased 0 times for a total karma of 2. |
| 11:26 |
jrshaw |
I do not have a successful install. I've started working backwards through the 2011 developers server VM and will continue to be documenting along the way. I just want to make sure that I can get some help as I step through this thing. I get the sense that I have your good ears. I think this will work and all will benefit... |
| 11:27 |
rfrasur |
jrshaw: have you also been added to the listservs? better to have too many communication avenues than not enough. |
| 11:28 |
jrshaw |
I'm on a few... looking up specifics... |
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| 11:31 |
DPearl |
Question: What piece of code updates the asset.uri table when the underlying marc is changed in a record_entry? |
| 11:31 |
jeff_ |
jrshaw: i would not recommend working with a virtual machine image from 2011 -- very little of that is likely to be relevant for today |
| 11:33 |
jrshaw |
Here is what I have so far. I didn't want to overwhelm myself. You guys probably know some of the better and more important ones to augment these... open-ils-documentation list.georgialibraries.org open-ils-generallist.georgialibraries.org open-ils-devlist.georgialibraries.org |
| 11:33 |
jeff_ |
DPearl: a database function, biblio.extract_located_uris which is called by biblio.indexing_ingest_or_delete which is attached to a trigger on biblio.record_entry |
| 11:33 |
rfrasur |
actually, those are your best shots at this point. |
| 11:34 |
DPearl |
jeff_: That's just what I was looking for! jeff_++ |
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rfrasur |
jrshaw: I'd recommend popping in here first, generally, and then if you're not getting/finding the info you need, shoot an email to a list. |
| 11:35 |
paxed |
where does the cvx.search_ccvm() used in coded_value_selector.tt2 come from? |
| 11:35 |
rfrasur |
and, up front, you should know that I know nothing of value |
| 11:35 |
rfrasur |
but others do |
| 11:35 |
paxed |
ctx.search_ccvm() |
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csharp |
jrshaw: can you provide specifics about what you're not finding in the installation documentation? as mentioned before, the docs assume a good deal of Linux knowledge |
| 11:38 |
jeff |
paxed: that's an autogenerated editor method defined in Open-ILS/src/perlmods/lib/OpenILS/Utils/CStoreEditor.pm -- see "sub runmethod" and the comment above it, and "sub initialize" for where the stub functions to runmethod are created |
| 11:38 |
jrshaw |
@rfrasur OK. That works for me. I’ll start stepping through the process and ask questions along the way… @csharp you hit on a key element here--little but growing Linux knowledge. I hate robot commands: commands that one inputs into the command line with no knowledge or background as to why one is doing them. So when something blows up… |
| 11:38 |
pinesol_green |
jrshaw: Leave me alone, I'm busy right now. |
| 11:38 |
yboston |
on the topic of our installation instructions, I have always wanted to add a few "cd /path/to/osrf/installationfiles/" to a few spots in the instructions so that makefile related commands work after the user is asked to move to a different directory right before |
| 11:39 |
yboston |
or instead create an installation FAQ that warns beginners about little things like that |
| 11:39 |
csharp |
jrshaw: the @ prefix triggers the bot in this channel -FYI |
| 11:39 |
Dyrcona |
jrshaw: Just type the user's name. the '@' confuses the bot |
| 11:39 |
paxed |
jeff: hmph. no wonder i couldn't find it by grepping. |
| 11:39 |
csharp |
~bot |
| 11:39 |
pinesol_green |
Hi, I'm pinesol_green, the #evergreen channel bot. I do several useful things like log the channel (see http://evergreen-ils.org/irc_logs/), track @karma, save messages for @later, and have several useful factoids like this one (factoid usage: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins#Using). |
| 11:40 |
Dyrcona |
@quote random |
| 11:40 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: Quote #15: "<Dyrcona> maybe Mnesia, I forget." (added by jeff at 03:29 PM, September 08, 2011) |
| 11:40 |
Dyrcona |
pinesol_green is picking on me...... |
| 11:40 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: Zoia knows how to make fusilli. |
| 11:40 |
pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) |
| 11:40 |
Dyrcona |
Talking to it confuses it, too. :) |
| 11:41 |
jrshaw |
Sorry folks. I'm bringing over some syntax from other communications methods. Thanks for the help. I'll learn and get this figured out... |
| 11:42 |
rfrasur |
@blame pinesol_green |
| 11:42 |
pinesol_green |
rfrasur: itself broke Evergreen. |
| 11:42 |
Dyrcona |
heh. |
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rfrasur |
(I LOVE it when I want software to do something I didn't know it could do, and it does it) |
| 11:46 |
rfrasur |
egils++ |
| 11:47 |
jrshaw |
So taking this from the top. I’m doing a clean 2.4 install on VirtualBox running under Windows 7Pro-64. I’ll plod along, document my steps and ask for help nudges when things blow up or don’t work. Q1: Ubuntu or Debian? |
| 11:47 |
* paxed |
uses both |
| 11:48 |
jeff |
jrshaw: either, as long as it is a version of debian or ubuntu which is supported by Evergreen 2.4 |
| 11:50 |
mcooper |
jrshaw: i've always used ubuntu, if only because of familiarity with it from running web servers, and from the desktop |
| 11:51 |
mrpeters |
jrshaw: sorry to hear that |
| 11:51 |
jrshaw |
OK, but which is preferred? Which is easier to learn/use for those coming over from MSW? Which is most used in the Evergreen community? |
| 11:52 |
mrpeters |
ubuntu lucid or debian squeeze are used by the biggest EG installations |
| 11:52 |
jeff_ |
mrpeters: can you clarify that statement, or be more specific? |
| 11:52 |
mrpeters |
which statement? |
| 11:53 |
jeff_ |
mrpeters: the one immediately prior -- "ubuntu lucid or debian squeeze are used by the biggest EG installations" |
| 11:53 |
mrpeters |
i didnt mean lucid....i meant precise |
| 11:53 |
mrpeters |
by biggest, i'm thinking pines and EG-IN given my experience with them |
| 11:53 |
jeff_ |
mrpeters: thanks. |
| 11:53 |
mrpeters |
i would say Ubuntu would be easier for a Windows user to adpt to |
| 11:54 |
jrshaw |
And mrpeters, I assume that snark was for my VM host system. I know I know. But this is where I am starting from. As I wrote last night in another forum, I have purchased my last non-open system. |
| 11:54 |
rfrasur |
I'd agree w/ mrpeters on the adaptability from my own limited experience |
| 11:55 |
jeff_ |
jrshaw: i don't think mrpeters was offering snark, but offering a delayed response to your long messages earlier where you voiced a differing opinion on the quality of the install documentation. :-) |
| 11:56 |
jrshaw |
Sorry for the misunderstanding |
| 11:58 |
Dyrcona |
jrshaw: I'd recommend using Ubuntu 12.04, but that's because that is what I use in production and development. |
| 11:58 |
jrshaw |
I have Ubuntu 12.04 server and ubuntu desktop installed. Yellow pill or green pill? :-) |
| 11:58 |
Dyrcona |
jrshaw: server. |
| 11:59 |
Dyrcona |
rfrasur: The copy of This Film is Not Yet Rated that I requested last week showed up today. |
| 12:00 |
Dyrcona |
rfrasur: I find it amusing that the cover of a DVD about censorship is censored. |
| 12:00 |
jrshaw |
Can I at least layer something like LXDE on top of it so I can get a better sense of the file structure and get a scrolling terminal window? |
| 12:01 |
Dyrcona |
jrshaw: I wouldn't. I do everything via command line. You can if you want to. |
| 12:01 |
rfrasur |
yay! Ours should be shipping soon from Amazon. Dyrcona, I thought that was pretty ironic as well. |
| 12:01 |
Dyrcona |
rfrasur: I believe it was the distributor who did the censorship, too, not the creators. |
| 12:02 |
rfrasur |
yeah, I think you're right. On the one hand, I'm glad...since it'll sit on a public shelf. On the other hand, I think it's a pile of pants |
| 12:02 |
Dyrcona |
pants would be better than a black rectangle. :) |
| 12:02 |
rfrasur |
though I suspect it'll be a pretty high circulating item |
| 12:02 |
mrpeters |
jrshaw: no snark intended, sorry if it came off that way |
| 12:03 |
jrshaw |
Dyrcona: I've already had instances during the install where critical info scrolled off the screen particularly important stuff like responses to help commands! |
| 12:03 |
rfrasur |
well...it's a girl...so I don't care what she's wearing :p |
| 12:03 |
mrpeters |
jrshaw: you could use "screen" during the install proccess |
| 12:03 |
mrpeters |
it will let you scroll back up through scrollback |
| 12:04 |
Dyrcona |
jrshaw: If a graphical terminal helps, then do install lxde or xfce or whatever you like. |
| 12:04 |
Dyrcona |
I forget that I install over ssh from a GNU/Linux workstation, so my local terminal has scrollback builtin. |
| 12:04 |
Dyrcona |
rfrasur: me, neither. ;) |
| 12:05 |
Dyrcona |
Maybe that didn't come out right? |
| 12:05 |
Dyrcona |
Anyway, lunch time! |
| 12:05 |
rfrasur |
no...it did. Have a good lunch :D |
| 12:05 |
mrpeters |
same here, Dyrcona |
| 12:06 |
jrshaw |
mpeters: where can I read documentation on how to use SSH? What is the equivalent in the Windows environment? This is my first experience with VMs so I'm still getting my head wrapped around a machine inside a machine inside a... |
| 12:06 |
Dyrcona |
I'll spend my lunch on G+ and here. |
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mrpeters |
PuTTy is a great SSH client for Windows |
| 12:07 |
rfrasur |
and free |
| 12:07 |
Dyrcona |
kmlussier: Welcome back! |
| 12:07 |
mrpeters |
apt-get install openssh-server (i think) on ubuntu |
| 12:07 |
Dyrcona |
kmlussier: My development VM is working again. |
| 12:07 |
mrpeters |
and then use putty to connect to the IP of your server with the credentials you've already got set up |
| 12:07 |
Dyrcona |
kmlussier: You can't ssh to it from outside the firewall, yet. |
| 12:08 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona: Not back yet. Still in Indiana. |
| 12:09 |
rfrasur |
oooo...where? |
| 12:09 |
jrshaw |
Putty it is. So I can get to the Ubuntu VM by talking from my Windows machine through PuTTy as long as I don't have to cross a firewall? |
| 12:11 |
kmlussier |
Dyrcona: Thanks! I may try to resume some testing over the next couple days. |
| 12:11 |
jrshaw |
PuTTy - a telnet client. This takes me back a couple of decades... |
| 12:12 |
kmlussier |
rfrasur: Mishawaka. At the in-laws house. |
| 12:13 |
rfrasur |
kmlussier:Excellent! Well...other than the "in Indiana" (although...welcome) and the "in-laws" part |
| 12:13 |
rfrasur |
I hope our state is nice to you and the weather behaves at an acceptable level :D |
| 12:14 |
yboston |
rfrasur: you might want to check the help forums for what ever software you are using for virtualization on how to connect with ssh/PuTTY because you also need to know what IP address is assigned to your VM by your virtualization software (if DHCP is being used) or if you need to pick an internal static IP address to your VM so you can connect to it from windows with PuTTy |
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Dyrcona |
yboston I think you meant jrshaw |
| 12:15 |
yboston |
oops, bad auto coplete |
| 12:16 |
yboston |
jrshaw: you might want to check the help forums for what ever software you are using for virtualization on how to connect with ssh/PuTTY because you also need to know what IP address is assigned to your VM by your virtualization software (if DHCP is being used) or if you need to pick an internal static IP address to your VM so you can connect to it from windows with PuTTy |
| 12:16 |
kmlussier |
Every other time I've come to IN in July, it's been unbearably hot, so I'm happy with the cool temps. :) |
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jrshaw |
Thanks. caught them both... |
| 12:21 |
mrpeters |
its goregous here this week kmlussier |
| 12:21 |
mrpeters |
only 73 right now, considering opening window in my room here at home |
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rfrasur |
yboston: thanks though :-) |
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* jrshaw |
goes to lunch |
| 12:26 |
rfrasur |
@weather 47346 |
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pinesol_green |
rfrasur: The current temperature in Hagerstown, Hagerstown, Indiana is 76.5°F (12:25 PM EDT on July 03, 2013). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 64.4°F. Pressure: 30.08 in 1018 hPa (Steady). |
| 12:33 |
rfrasur |
Hmm, I'm searching in the patron search screen, just bringing up a list of user accts based on permission settings. It worked just fine for "staffcard" but is pulling in strange results for "staff" |
| 12:37 |
rfrasur |
it's pulling in "staff," along with some other permission types |
| 12:38 |
mmorgan |
rfrasur: Could the other permission types you're seeing be children of "staff" in the permission tree? |
| 12:38 |
rfrasur |
mmorgan: I'm checking. I know that "staff" is a parent |
| 12:40 |
rfrasur |
mmorgan: no, the resulting permission types are children of another parent...and all the children of that parent aren't being pulled. |
| 12:40 |
rfrasur |
at least from what I can see. |
| 12:40 |
rfrasur |
jboyer-isl: rjackson-isl: can you see something else? |
| 12:43 |
rfrasur |
also, I'm cleaning our patron files (rather than preparing for the board meeting...because it's boring)...and I have patrons that I can't get rid of because someone/something gave them the "staff" permission level which requires a global-admin or someone with server side access to delete. |
| 12:43 |
rfrasur |
:p |
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* rfrasur |
calls no one in particular a moron |
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* paxed |
grumbles something unprintable |
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csharp |
jrshaw: you may have to set up a bridged networking device on your vbox vm to be able to reach it from your windows host |
| 12:47 |
csharp |
(just fyi) |
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paxed |
bah. tracking where the hell cstore searches go is like trying to find an underground river by dowsing. |
| 12:48 |
* paxed |
needs a proper technical documentation. |
| 12:49 |
rfrasur |
lol....I hear the sound of crickets with regard to my "problem" - of course, it's not much of a problem since I can't fix it anyway. |
| 12:58 |
bshum |
Hmm, we can start to process offline circ transactions and then close the window to do other things? |
| 12:59 |
bshum |
I have this feeling starting the process does something on the DB and the client will just get updates when it finishes. |
| 12:59 |
rfrasur |
bshum: yes...we do that. |
| 12:59 |
rfrasur |
get it running and move on. |
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Dyrcona |
bshum: The transactions are uploaded first and then processed. |
| 13:00 |
Dyrcona |
bshum: Staff can upload offline transactions from all of their circ workstations, and then tell it to process them all. |
| 13:01 |
bshum |
Dyrcona: That's kind of what we're planning towards again. We have staff upload from their workstations to a session and then HQ staff process things. |
| 13:01 |
bshum |
But we're trying to figure out if we can begin to process and then switch client logins to the next library to process a different library. |
| 13:01 |
bshum |
That said, then we wouldn't know that the process was done or not till we logged back in anyways. |
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Dyrcona |
bshum: We let library staff do it all. |
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rfrasur |
hmm, we can't see sessions from other libs here...maybe it's diff there? since we're just a spoke of the wheel and all that. |
| 13:02 |
rfrasur |
and each individual library does their own, like Dyrcona |
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Dyrcona |
rfrasur: When you know the tricks, you can login as any library if you have the permissions. |
| 13:02 |
mmorgan |
bshum: One of our libraries had a problem logging out of the client while the transactions were processing. Once the authenticated session was gone, the remaining transactions didn't process. |
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mmorgan |
We were on 2.2 at the time. Not sure if anything has changed in that regard. |
| 13:03 |
rfrasur |
even if I knew the tricks, I don't have permission |
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bshum |
mmorgan: Eww, gotcha. |
| 13:03 |
bshum |
That's the situation I was afraid of. |
| 13:04 |
mmorgan |
Closing the window, or going to another tab was ok, I think, but not logging out. |
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Dyrcona |
bshum: You should call in sick whenever your vacation is over. |
| 13:04 |
bshum |
Yep, that helps a lot. mmorgan++ #thanks for the warning. |
| 13:05 |
bshum |
Dyrcona: I'm back from vacation. And I was thinking about taking a sick day today. Haven't slept well this whole week :( |
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rfrasur |
this is why I hate reports - because they show all the bad data that has to be fixed to get accurate friggin reporting |
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Dyrcona |
Seems I am not the only one fond of quoting Doctor McCoy in my error messages: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/1270364?p=e_deadjim&rd=1 |
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rfrasur |
lol, it seems that you're not. |
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kayals |
what is the best way to edit staff-client index.xhtml. I would like to edit some text and provide external link. I checked the index.xhtml file and it includes locale /openils/var/web/opac/locale/en-US/lang.dtd |
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paxed |
depends. if you're making internal changes, so they're not of any use to others, you might aswell just put the text in there as is. |
| 13:48 |
kayals |
its internal |
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kayals |
i am new to dtd |
| 13:49 |
kayals |
the easiest way is to add a text to the index.xhtml file and hyperlink |
| 13:49 |
kayals |
but is there a way to insert the link viz dtd entity |
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kayals |
via* |
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rfrasur |
gmcharlt++ |
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paxed |
just consider the index.xhtml as a normal html file then. unless your users need other than en-US languages too. |
| 13:50 |
kayals |
ok |
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kayals |
i guess I will edit the index file |
| 13:51 |
kayals |
thanks |
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Dyrcona |
kayals: You know how to use HTML entities, like & ? |
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* paxed |
repeats himself. |
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Dyrcona |
heh. |
| 14:10 |
Dyrcona |
I just thought that I'd offer to confuse things. ;) |
| 14:10 |
paxed |
in http://docs.evergreen-ils.org/2.3/_recent_staff_searches_2.html the resencd searches list in the image show only the actual search term, none of the depth() or subject: or others. is that a config option or has it changed? |
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* paxed |
repeats himself, with typos! |
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Dyrcona |
paxed: I don't know. I've never really paid attention to that interface. |
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* jeffdavis |
opens gettext manual, quails, reads Wikipedia page on gettext instead |
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paxed |
jeffdavis: oh? |
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jeffdavis |
seeing some minor weirdness that may be locale related, just trying to wrap my head around how i18n stuff works in EG which I've avoided delving into before |
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paxed |
jeffdavis: ask, i may know something. |
| 14:15 |
jeffdavis |
paxed: thanks! will do as soon as I know how to formulate the question :) |
| 14:15 |
paxed |
so what's the weirdness? |
| 14:17 |
jeffdavis |
well, one part of it is that we're getting an XML parse error on /openils/var/web/xul/server/locale/en-CA/multiclass_search_help.html |
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jeffdavis |
the file appears to actually be a po file rather than html, and i'm not clear if that is supposed to be the case |
| 14:18 |
jeffdavis |
also seeing a mismatch between web/reports/fm_IDL.dtd on different servers which is causing errors, and I'm not sure where the mismatch snuck in |
| 14:19 |
jeffdavis |
so more to do with our build/install process probably, but I don't know the i18n stuff well enough to be sure what is/should be going on |
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paxed |
hm. yes, that file appears to be a po-file, indeed. and no, i don't think it should be. |
| 14:23 |
sidion |
dbs i have been informed that you recently upgraded to 2.4, much like we did, and that you may have gotten Novelist to be working? If so am i correct in my understanding that the authentication method changed from 2.2 and that i'm going to have to get that new auth info from novelist? |
| 14:23 |
* paxed |
decides to call it a day. |
| 14:24 |
paxed |
oh hey, a new humble ebook bundle. |
| 14:26 |
paxed |
with pretty good books too... https://www.humblebundle.com/ |
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dbs |
sidion: we don't use novelist, so what I did was to prevent errors from being thrown if you're not a novelist site |
| 15:06 |
dbs |
paxed: yeah, jumped on that immediately :) |
| 15:07 |
sidion |
ah that makes sense, i was looking at the code and it looks like it will error no matter what, as it looks like there is a variable being used as an object but its the only instance of that var in the entire source code but there might be some magic somewhere i'm missing that defines it if the right env variables are set |
| 15:08 |
Dyrcona |
sidion: The variables used for authentication have changed. |
| 15:08 |
Dyrcona |
I believe it is in the release notes. |
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* Dyrcona |
checks. |
| 15:09 |
sidion |
yes there is a new password and user env that wasn't there before |
| 15:09 |
dbs |
jeffdavis: fm_IDL.xml gets converted to entity format, if the i18n is not up to date, then the fm_IDL.dtd will be missing definitions for some entities and bad things will happen |
| 15:09 |
dbs |
jeffdavis: short, brutal workaround is to replace /openils/var/web/reports/fm_IDL.xml with a copy of /openils/conf/fm_IDL.xml (which is non-entityized) |
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Dyrcona |
sidion: You'll need to get the password from EBSCO. |
| 15:12 |
sidion |
right, that makes sense. thanks Dyrcona |
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bshum |
sidion: If I recall, I figured out what our user/pass credentials were based on our URL variable from prior to 2.4 |
| 15:26 |
sidion |
i have the url and profile but no clealy defined pass in the previous url env |
| 15:26 |
bshum |
Oh, that's weird. |
| 15:26 |
bshum |
Ours was clearly showing as part of it with &pwd=... |
| 15:26 |
bshum |
Where that was the password |
| 15:26 |
bshum |
Before the next &cfg=Y |
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bshum |
Sorry, good luck with figuring it all out then :( |
| 15:27 |
bshum |
@eightball Will tomorrow be uneventful? |
| 15:27 |
pinesol_green |
bshum: About as likely as pigs flying. |
| 15:27 |
sidion |
we also have some with multiple profiles set, so i am getting into contact with novelist to get them to send us the values so i know they are proper |
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Dyrcona |
@eightball Will thing be better in Chicago? |
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pinesol_green |
Dyrcona: What are you asking me for? |
| 15:39 |
Dyrcona |
heh |
| 15:39 |
rfrasur |
that sinking feeling that your 18 yr old child may not be telling you the entire truth about plans w/ the girlfriend and the realization that there's little that can be done about it. |
| 15:39 |
rfrasur |
@eightball Is the eldest feeding me a line of crap? |
| 15:39 |
pinesol_green |
rfrasur: You're kidding, right? |
| 15:40 |
rfrasur |
nice noncommital answer |
| 15:41 |
rfrasur |
@blame pinesol_green |
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pinesol_green |
rfrasur: itself broke Evergreen. |
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jrshaw |
I tried configuring the VM for SSH and PuTTy but my Vm and network knowledge was insufficient to overcome the configuration obstacles. So I settled on an LXDE installation on ubuntu server 12.04 which is working... |
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jrshaw |
On to the OpenSRF install... |
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rfrasur |
:) |
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jrshaw |
OK on a previous occasion I’ve downloaded the 2.2.0 tarball, unpacked it in the opensrf directory, and ran the Makefile.install using ubuntu-precise as the OS name The config command blows up. I’m loggedin as user. ~$ sudo ./configure --prefix=/openils --sysconfdir=/openils/conf sudo: ./configure: command not found ~$ |
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jrshaw |
~$ sudo ./configure --prefix=/openils --sysconfdir=/openils/conf |
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pinesol_green |
jrshaw: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) |
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jrshaw |
Sorry. Put some errant sytax in ther... |
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rfrasur |
ignore the bot. it prolly got triggered by the / |
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dbs |
jrshaw: don't type the "~$" part. for that matter, you probably shouldn't be using "sudo" to configure & make, either; just "make install" |
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rfrasur |
meh |
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* dbs |
stares at http://evergreen-ils.org/documentation/install/OpenSRF/README_2_2_0.html |
| 16:45 |
rfrasur |
jrshaw: you can check logs to see what you missed as well. http://evergreen-ils.org/irc_logs/evergreen/ |
| 16:45 |
jrshaw |
That was fun... Crashed Chrome. Lost last response. Looking up logs. Resuming... |
| 16:46 |
rfrasur |
if I don't crash a computer every day, I think something bad's going to happen. |
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* rfrasur |
shrugs |
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jrshaw |
I thre the ~$ in there just to let you know I was at the dollar prompt. I'll leave it out next time. |
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jrshaw |
threw |
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dbs |
jrshaw: if "ls" doesn't show you that "configure" is in the list of files, then you're in the wrong directory |
| 16:49 |
jrshaw |
I recall that it did not work at all without the sudo... |
| 16:49 |
jrshaw |
found configure under the unpacked tartball diretor cding over there... |
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rfrasur |
jrshaw: where you located (roughly)? |
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jrshaw |
Chrome rest again... I'm at home/opensrf/opensrf-2.2.0 |
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jrshaw |
reset^^ |
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jrshaw |
So what is this configure trying to do and what are the switches doing? This is the part where if I knew what was trying to be accomplished I could learn something and not do some of these dumb inexperienced keyboard foibles... |
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phasefx |
jrshaw: configure is part of this http://www.gnu.org/software/autoconf/ It's really good at figuring out what shared libraries are present on your system and how to link them into Evergreen |
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jrshaw |
So I guess we are giving it a list of "default" or "common" directories so it knows where to look. |
| 17:03 |
phasefx |
you're telling it where to install Evergreen or OpenSRF in this case |
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jrshaw |
OK. got it to work. I was in the wrong directory and was missing a forward slash in from of the openils directory. |
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jrshaw |
in front of |
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jrshaw |
The make blew up |
| 17:14 |
jrshaw |
I thought I was going to be able to cut and paste out of the xterm window in the vm, but am unable to do so. |
| 17:14 |
jrshaw |
should I have issued the make with the sudo prefix? |
| 17:15 |
Dyrcona |
jrshaw: Which make? |
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Dyrcona |
you run three makes when installing OpenSRF or Evergreen typically. |
| 17:16 |
jrshaw |
The one in the docs that follows the configure command |
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jrshaw |
./configure --prefix=/openils --sysconfdir=/openils/conf make |
| 17:16 |
Dyrcona |
no that one doesn't need sudo. |
| 17:17 |
jrshaw |
sorry that last make should be on a separate line |
| 17:17 |
Dyrcona |
did you do sudo make -f Src/extras/Makefile.install ubuntu-precise ? |
| 17:17 |
jrshaw |
yes, because the first time it wouldn't work. |
| 17:18 |
Dyrcona |
without know what the errors from make are, I'm not going to be able to help, much. |
| 17:19 |
Dyrcona |
Which are you attempting to install at them moment OpenSRF or Evergreen? |
| 17:19 |
jrshaw |
can I post screen shots on the evergreen pastbin? |
| 17:19 |
Dyrcona |
jrshaw: I don't think so, but here's a place where you can: http://inky.ws/ |
| 17:23 |
jrshaw |
I'm going back to figuring out the network stuff so I can start logging all the keystrokes. Rolling back the vm to a clean install point... |
| 17:23 |
jrshaw |
Thanks for your help guys. This will be a while... |
| 17:24 |
* jrshaw |
is headed out to dinner |
| 17:24 |
Dyrcona |
jrshaw: Good luck. I may or may not be on later. I go home from the office in about 5 minutes. |
| 17:25 |
rfrasur |
(those lucky people who get to go home) |
| 17:25 |
* Dyrcona |
could now work from just about anywhere. |
| 17:26 |
jrshaw |
Hey, my home is my office so I never get to leave work... :-) |
| 17:27 |
rfrasur |
Yeah, I can work at home 50% of the time also... |
| 17:28 |
rfrasur |
but tonight is board meeting, so I'm here...plus my staff seems to like my face...or plausible deniability, at least. |
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jrshaw |
The board gets to see my face when we teleconference. I have to figure out how to add in a green screen so I can put an office wall behind me while I'm broadcasting from the beach... :-) |
| 17:35 |
rfrasur |
nice. Well, we may have a diff working arrangement ;). Someday when I'm not a lib director anymore, I fully plan to be offsite on a regular and extended basis. |
| 17:43 |
rangi |
9/ws 16 |
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rangi |
heh |
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rangi |
its gonna be one of those doa |
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rangi |
days even |
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rfrasur |
rangi: isn't your day over? ish? |
| 17:49 |
rangi |
just starting |
| 17:49 |
rangi |
9.49am on thursday |
| 17:50 |
rfrasur |
where are you? |
| 17:51 |
rangi |
nz |
| 17:52 |
rfrasur |
ahh...I was looking on the map but went east instead of west |
| 17:52 |
rfrasur |
and you're not on the map anyway :D |
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* rfrasur |
has no work other than sitting and cooking tomorrow |
| 17:52 |
rfrasur |
or...today for you |
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* rfrasur |
time to make the donuts...er...doughnuts |
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jeffdavis |
dbs: for our fm_IDL.xml issue, ldwhalen applied a workaround that is effectively the same as your "short, brutal" suggestion above; it's working for us for now |
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