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pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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Bmagic |
jeff: re: new copies made available filling holds in the wrong order. The damage is already done, but I wonder if it would do the right thing if you used this cronjob during the day: ./hold_targeter.pl --osrf-config $SRF_CORE --retarget-interval '2 days' --soft-retarget-interval '2 hours' |
| 09:39 |
Bmagic |
When the hold targeter runs, it should* be processing the rows in some sort of "order by" order based upon a complex set of library settings, right? |
| 09:46 |
Dyrcona |
Is there some kind of targeting done when the copies are updated? I don't think so, but.... |
| 09:49 |
jeff |
not that I'm aware of... just the normal cron job that retargets holds that were last targeted more than X ago (and targeting of new holds and manual retargeting) |
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JBoyer |
FYI, Dev meeting starting in about 10 minutes |
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| 14:59 |
miker |
Dyrcona: only with "retarget local holds" and "retarget all statuses" checkin modifiers. nothing magical (that'd be ... a lot) |
| 15:00 |
JBoyer |
It's that time |
| 15:00 |
Dyrcona |
Yeahp. |
| 15:00 |
JBoyer |
#startmeeting 2020-12-01 - Developer Meeting, Agenda Available at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2020-12-01 |
| 15:00 |
pinesol |
Meeting started Tue Dec 1 15:00:32 2020 US/Eastern. The chair is JBoyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 15:00 |
pinesol |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #evergreen is now (Meeting topic: 2020-12-01 - Developer Meeting, Agenda Available at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2020-12-01) |
| 15:00 |
pinesol |
The meeting name has been set to '2020_12_01___developer_meeting__agenda_available_at_https___wiki_evergreen_ils_org_doku_php_id_dev_meetings_2020_12_01' |
| 15:00 |
JBoyer |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Introductions (Meeting topic: 2020-12-01 - Developer Meeting, Agenda Available at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2020-12-01) |
| 15:00 |
csharp |
#info csharp = Chris Sharp, GPLS |
| 15:00 |
JBoyer |
#info JBoyer = Jason Boyer, Equinox |
| 15:00 |
abowling |
#info abowling = Adam Bowling, Emerald Data Networks |
| 15:00 |
Dyrcona |
#info Dyrcona = Jason Stephenson, CW MARS |
| 15:01 |
berick |
#info berick Bill Erickson, KCLS |
| 15:01 |
miker |
#info mike = Mike Rylander, EOLI |
| 15:01 |
shulabear |
#info shulabear = Shula Link, GCHRL |
| 15:01 |
miker |
#info miker = Mike Rylander, EOLI |
| 15:01 |
mmorgan |
#info mmorgan = Michele Morgan, NOBLE |
| 15:01 |
rhamby |
#info rhamby = Rogan Hamby, EOLI |
| 15:01 |
mantis2 |
#info mantis = Gina Monti, Bibliomation |
| 15:01 |
phasefx |
#info phasefx = Jason Etheridge, EOLI |
| 15:02 |
terranm |
#info terranm = Terran McCanna, PINES |
| 15:02 |
JBoyer |
With no action items from our last meeting we'll go right to updates |
| 15:02 |
JBoyer |
#topic Evergreen Release Info |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Evergreen Release Info (Meeting topic: 2020-12-01 - Developer Meeting, Agenda Available at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2020-12-01) |
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| 15:03 |
berick |
i can offer a bit on the EG side |
| 15:03 |
JBoyer |
Dyrcona has a question about 3.7 beta and release dates, and I think I saw a message about that recently |
| 15:03 |
JBoyer |
berick++ |
| 15:03 |
berick |
indeed, proposed schedule emailed |
| 15:03 |
Dyrcona |
berick++ |
| 15:03 |
terranm |
berick++ |
| 15:03 |
berick |
and related terranm propesed dates for feedback fest and bug squash week |
| 15:04 |
sandbergja |
terranm++ |
| 15:04 |
sandbergja |
berick++ |
| 15:04 |
berick |
February 8-12 and March 8-12 respectively |
| 15:04 |
Dyrcona |
Those dates also work for me. terranm++ |
| 15:05 |
berick |
so i'll update the general EG roadmap page with these dates |
| 15:05 |
terranm |
Cool, I'll put them on the community calendar |
| 15:06 |
mmorgan |
berick++ |
| 15:06 |
mmorgan |
terranm++ |
| 15:06 |
JBoyer |
#info proposed dates email thread: https://georgialibraries.markmail.org/message/ke4aaxb45g6ec3j6 |
| 15:06 |
JBoyer |
Someday I'll look this stuff up before the meeting starts. Not today! |
| 15:07 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 15:07 |
JBoyer |
I'm also +1 to the recommended dates. |
| 15:07 |
Dyrcona |
I hit refresh on the agenda as the meeting started. |
| 15:07 |
JBoyer |
I at least get a little more ahead than that so I can write up a command script, heh. |
| 15:08 |
JBoyer |
If there are no more Eg updates or questions about it, we'll move on to Docs |
| 15:08 |
JBoyer |
#topic Documentation Updates |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Documentation Updates (Meeting topic: 2020-12-01 - Developer Meeting, Agenda Available at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2020-12-01) |
| 15:09 |
JBoyer |
Who would like to expand on the changes to the DIG meeting format, or have I been punk'd by old data? |
| 15:09 |
* JBoyer |
looks for hidden camera |
| 15:10 |
JBoyer |
Looks like that means it's time to discuss business of a newer nature. |
| 15:10 |
JBoyer |
#topic New Business |
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Topic for #evergreen is now New Business (Meeting topic: 2020-12-01 - Developer Meeting, Agenda Available at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2020-12-01) |
| 15:11 |
JBoyer |
terranm, would you like to talk about the signed off bugs list? |
| 15:11 |
terranm |
Sure. We have a bit of a backlog in patches that are tested and signed off but not committed. Michele has been highlighting some of the more urgent fixes in email. |
| 15:11 |
terranm |
Would it be reasonable to ask each core committer to commit to checking and committing at least one signed off patch per month? (At least until we're keeping up with them?) |
| 15:12 |
JBoyer |
Seems reasonable to me. |
| 15:12 |
csharp |
+1 |
| 15:12 |
berick |
terranm: i like the idea. maybe a good dev list heads-up / discussion |
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| 15:12 |
mmorgan |
+1 |
| 15:13 |
terranm |
With great power comes great responsibility |
| 15:13 |
JBoyer |
I also really like the list of 10 that mmorgan is keeping. Don't want to wade through the long list, here's 10 to pick from! |
| 15:13 |
Dyrcona |
It's all right with me. I started looking at some this week in between other things. |
| 15:13 |
mmorgan |
Low hanging fruit! |
| 15:13 |
csharp |
The List of Ten |
| 15:14 |
terranm |
mmorgan++ |
| 15:14 |
berick |
yeah, the list is great |
| 15:14 |
JBoyer |
terranm++ |
| 15:14 |
JBoyer |
mmorgan++ |
| 15:14 |
JBoyer |
was there anything you wanted to add about it mmorgan or just make folks aware, which we now ought be? |
| 15:15 |
Dyrcona |
mmorgan++ |
| 15:15 |
mmorgan |
Just wanted to keep folks attention on them :) |
| 15:15 |
JBoyer |
+1 |
| 15:16 |
terranm |
Thanks all! |
| 15:16 |
csharp |
might be worth using the bug assignment feature to let other committers know you're working on a bug |
| 15:16 |
mmorgan |
terranm++ |
| 15:17 |
sandbergja |
Just a note that we should update this wiki page with the expectation that core committers review one signedoff patch/month (unless we think it will just be a temporary need): https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=contributing:core_committer_responsibilities&s[]=committers |
| 15:17 |
Dyrcona |
I don't think it should be permanent requirement of being a committer. |
| 15:17 |
sandbergja |
(I don't think we'll ever *not* have a backlog of signedoff bugs, but I've been pretty pessimistic lately hahaha) |
| 15:17 |
terranm |
:) |
| 15:17 |
JBoyer |
Also, a big +1 to mentioning both the request to check / commit a minimum of 1 bug per month and updates on the "top 10" on the dev list to remind everyone, especially since it's December. |
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| 15:18 |
csharp |
yeah, I think the intention is enough without codifying something |
| 15:18 |
mmorgan |
I agree using the assignment feature is great for keeping track. |
| 15:18 |
sandbergja |
that makes sense |
| 15:18 |
csharp |
meaning I agree with Dyrcona |
| 15:18 |
JBoyer |
I don't know that it should be a requirement but it does seem like something attainable to try to do, which could stand to be mentioned. |
| 15:18 |
Dyrcona |
Also, definitely assign bugs to yourself when looking at them. |
| 15:19 |
berick |
JBoyer: ditto |
| 15:19 |
terranm |
More like a goal than a requirement |
| 15:19 |
JBoyer |
terranm++ |
| 15:19 |
berick |
"flight hours" |
| 15:19 |
csharp |
there you go |
| 15:21 |
JBoyer |
Ok, any other items to discuss before announcements are announced? |
| 15:22 |
JBoyer |
#topic Announcements |
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Topic for #evergreen is now Announcements (Meeting topic: 2020-12-01 - Developer Meeting, Agenda Available at https://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=dev:meetings:2020-12-01) |
| 15:22 |
JBoyer |
#info Next meeting is 2021-01-05 |
| 15:22 |
JBoyer |
And that's all I have unless anyone is excited about anything in particular. |
| 15:22 |
jeffdavis |
Sorry, I was afk - there was a question about security releases |
| 15:23 |
jeffdavis |
i.e. whether to do a round of them in Dec |
| 15:23 |
JBoyer |
Oh, right, didn't make the agenda. |
| 15:23 |
Dyrcona |
Yes, there was such a question, but I wasn't sure if we should broach it here, but why not? |
| 15:24 |
JBoyer |
I do think dropping them right before Christmas is a pretty rough time. |
| 15:25 |
JBoyer |
People with an eye to exploiting bugs usually have more free time around the holidays than the people that apply the patches, so to speak. |
| 15:25 |
Dyrcona |
Yeah, and this was my motivation for asking about the 3.7 release. |
| 15:25 |
csharp |
Dyrcona: we can speak in pig latin to obscure what we're aying-say |
| 15:26 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 15:26 |
jeffdavis |
I believe there are a few pending security fixes, I'd support a release in Jan esp if that helped get more of the fixes committed |
| 15:26 |
csharp |
sounds reasonable to me |
| 15:27 |
JBoyer |
With the 3.7 timeline I think it would definitley be fine to look at the Jan point release. |
| 15:27 |
Dyrcona |
I agree with security releases in January rather than waiting for March. |
| 15:27 |
csharp |
also, is it safe to assume that January would be the next window for point releases generally? |
| 15:28 |
Dyrcona |
csharp: Thst's OK with me. |
| 15:28 |
JBoyer |
Seems that way, unless a flurry of activity takes place in the next 13-14 days, which would be unusual for December. |
| 15:28 |
csharp |
yeah |
| 15:29 |
JBoyer |
Ok, so skipping December and planning to make January a security release, does that sound like a good plan to everyone present? |
| 15:29 |
berick |
so we have security and the Top Ten Challenge for Jan. |
| 15:30 |
csharp |
yes |
| 15:30 |
csharp |
also the 100 pushup challenge and New Year's resolutions |
| 15:30 |
Dyrcona |
I'm going to assign myself an action to set dates in Lp for the next point releases, and add a 3.4.6 security release. |
| 15:30 |
JBoyer |
csharp++ |
| 15:30 |
csharp |
Dyrcona++ |
| 15:30 |
terranm |
Dyrcona++ |
| 15:31 |
Dyrcona |
#action Dyrcona to assign release dates in Launchpad for 3.6.2, 3.5.3, and 3.4.6 releases. |
| 15:31 |
Dyrcona |
Hmm... Maybe I can't or didn't do it right? |
| 15:31 |
JBoyer |
I don't recall if meetbot is down with that unless you're chair. |
| 15:31 |
csharp |
Dyrcona: that should work I think |
| 15:31 |
JBoyer |
#action Dyrcona to assign release dates in Launchpad for 3.6.2, 3.5.3, and 3.4.6 releases. |
| 15:32 |
JBoyer |
Or it got bored and wondered off... |
| 15:32 |
csharp |
Marvin the Meetbot? |
| 15:32 |
Dyrcona |
Maybe there's no feedback with action? |
| 15:32 |
JBoyer |
oh, that could be. |
| 15:32 |
csharp |
that's my impression |
| 15:33 |
JBoyer |
Now you're double gonna do it, I guess. :) |
| 15:33 |
Dyrcona |
:) |
| 15:33 |
JBoyer |
Ok, We've all got some things we can start looking at and hopefully the next point releases will be packed with good stuff and 3.7 will be another big release. |
| 15:34 |
JBoyer |
Hurrah! |
| 15:34 |
JBoyer |
#endmeeting |
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| 15:34 |
pinesol |
Meeting ended Tue Dec 1 15:34:18 2020 US/Eastern. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
| 15:34 |
pinesol |
Minutes: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2020/evergreen.2020-12-01-15.00.html |
| 15:34 |
pinesol |
Minutes (text): http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2020/evergreen.2020-12-01-15.00.txt |
| 15:34 |
pinesol |
Log: http://evergreen-ils.org/meetings/evergreen/2020/evergreen.2020-12-01-15.00.log.html |
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terranm |
JBoyer++ |
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abowling |
jboyer++ |
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mmorgan |
JBoyer++ |
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berick |
jboyer++ |
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shulabear |
jboyer++ |
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Dyrcona |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:35 |
csharp |
JBoyer++ # efficiency :-) |
| 15:35 |
phasefx |
JBoyer++ |
| 15:35 |
JBoyer |
On occasion, csharp. ;) |
| 15:36 |
Dyrcona |
Yeahp, the action is in the minutes twice. |
| 15:36 |
JBoyer |
Ah, well. Perhaps I'll only list it three times under Actions from the last meeting. :D |
| 15:39 |
Dyrcona |
Heh. |
| 15:39 |
Dyrcona |
And, Lp subtracted a day from the dates I chose for the releases, but whatever. |
| 15:40 |
JBoyer |
Reminds me of a fun early-days web client bug re: birthdays. :) |
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Dyrcona |
timezones-- ;) |
| 15:53 |
Dyrcona |
miker: Are you still working on bug 1808055 ? |
| 15:53 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1808055 in Evergreen "Search queries containing a filter in a subquery/group may drop the filter" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1808055 - Assigned to Mike Rylander (mrylander) |
| 16:19 |
Bmagic |
JBoyer++ |
| 16:19 |
Dyrcona |
So what should I do with a bug that was fixed by a patch on a different bug? Fix Released or Invalid? |
| 16:20 |
Dyrcona |
And, for those following along at home. It's a private security bug. |
| 16:21 |
Dyrcona |
It was also fixed several releases ago. |
| 16:22 |
Dyrcona |
I will a) make it a public security bug, b) mark it fix released for the release where I think it was fixed, and c) remove the other "affected" releases as no longer affected. |
| 16:48 |
jeff |
Were the reasons it was a private security bug clearly communicated as a security issue in the release notes for the release where it was fixed? |
| 16:49 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: I don't think so. It was fixed as a result of a patch to a different bug and then it was overlooked: https://bugs.launchpad.net/evergreen/+bug/1729889 |
| 16:49 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1729889 in Evergreen 3.2 "Looks like an MD5 hash of a password field is being displayed in record holds grid" [Undecided,Fix released] |
| 16:52 |
jeffdavis |
Looks like actor.usr_activity only tracks the most recent web client login, not all such logins? |
| 16:54 |
jeff |
jeffdavis: check the transient column on the relevant config.actor_usr_activity_type (from memory) |
| 16:54 |
jeff |
config.usr_activity_type |
| 16:55 |
jeff |
you'll likely want to modify those. the defaults are not suitable for all environments. |
| 16:56 |
jeffdavis |
jeff++ |
| 16:56 |
jeffdavis |
yes, looks like the websocket login types are transient by default |
| 17:01 |
Dyrcona |
jeff: I'm signing out if you want to continue that conversation tomorrow. |
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pinesol |
News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live> |
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jeffdavis |
Another day, another method for exhausting open-ils.actor drones. :( |
| 18:51 |
jeffdavis |
bug 1896285 |
| 18:51 |
pinesol |
Launchpad bug 1896285 in Evergreen "Use batch methods for multi-row grid actions" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1896285 |
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