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06:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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09:36 Phillip I have a hatch question
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09:59 kmlussier Phillip: Go ahead and ask your question. When somebody who can help you sees it, they'll answer it.
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10:07 Phillip Using hatch 0.1.5 with Chrome (Windows 10) and uninstalled hatch using Add/Remove.  Uncertain that Add/Remove entirely removed hatch.  Seeking manual uninstall info.
10:10 csharp Phillip: it creates a hidden folder in the user's home directory - let me start up a Windows VM to check...
10:12 csharp Phillip: ".evergreen" - to truly remove Hatch you would probably want to remove that directory or the subdir for the server you're having trouble with (e.g. "https_gapines_org")
10:15 Phillip So no registry entries?
10:15 csharp Phillip: it does add registry entries.  one sec
10:18 csharp Phillip: The uninstaller *should* be deleting them
10:18 csharp reference: http://git.evergreen-ils.org/?p=working/Hatch.​git;a=blob;f=installer/windows/hatch.nsi;h=68f​ed3e9046693969895e4ddecc203daecc69cac;hb=HEAD beginning at line 185
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10:33 Phillip FYI, the hatch 0.1.5 uninstaller does not remove the .evergreen directory.  After uninstall, there were a few entries left behind but they appear to be innocent
10:33 csharp Phillip: correct - that's intentional - most programs preserve user data
10:33 Phillip "few entries" = "few instances of hatch in the registry"
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11:08 Phillip Using Chrome/hatch, we have Chrome "locked down" so that it cannot be used for general web browsing.  It's used exclusively with Evergreen.  Does hatch need to communicate with additional websites other than Evergreen?
11:11 berick Phillip: Hatch does not communicate with any websites
11:11 berick it just talks to the browser
11:28 JBoyer Phillip, I'm curious what remaining entries you're seeing in your registry. My understanding is that the uninstaller is supposed to be trying to remove every key it creates.
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11:47 Phillip Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Micros​oft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search\RecentAp​ps\{1577ADA1-A063-4DCA-82F1-685CEF77C8FC} for version hatch 0.1.4
11:47 Phillip Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Micros​oft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search\RecentAp​ps\{6DB14493-5B71-4087-B9BC-F7C8FD50969C} for hatch 0.1.5
11:47 Phillip Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\​Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Compatibility Assistant\Store
11:48 Phillip C:\Program Files (x86)\Hatch\Uninstall Hatch.exe
11:48 Phillip SIGN.MEDIA=1A7EF0 Hatch\Hatch-Installer-0.1.5.exe
11:48 berick Phillip: just thought about something re: hatch talking to websites...  if your print templates contain references to external resources (images, css, script) then Hatch will try to fetch to resources over the network.
11:49 berick s/fetch to/fetch those/
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12:04 JBoyer Phillip, we don't manually insert anything in those keys and it would likely be unsafe / bad practice to try to cleanup that kind of thing. (they appear to be more caches than permanent info storage keys) so they're likely fine as-is.
12:10 Phillip JBoyer, I thought this was the case.
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12:29 Phillip When printing a holds pull list with Chrome/hatch, it prints receipt font size on a regular printer.  Under test print, choosing Print does the same.
12:29 Phillip Under test print, choosing Print with dialog prints fine.  When I turn off hatch it prints fine.  I've uninstalled Chrome/hatch without resolving the issue
12:30 Phillip I used a different profile on the same computer and I'm having the same issue
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12:43 JBoyer Phillip, after enabling Hatch there are additional steps you need to take: In the Administration menu select Workstation, then click Printer Settings. Here you would set up the various contexts and what printers are used for which context.
12:45 JBoyer You may have done that part already but for reasons lost to time the default context for receipts is unset, so they use the default context unless you manually change that. To check that, go to the Print Templates page of the Workstation Administration, choose the receipt type you want to test, then make sure that the Context is Receipt.
12:45 JBoyer Try again and see if that helps.
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13:03 NFPL If I were working on something, say a fully responsive OPAC using Bootstrap4 to share with the community, where should I state my intentions? Under blueprints on the Wiki or....?
13:04 NFPL It was second on the requested list from the conference and I have been working on it since we got back but not really sure where to communicate that
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13:07 miker NFPL: you can create a wishlist bug on launchpad and add a link to a WIP branch.  we tend not to use (and therefore forget about) LP blueprints.  The wiki would be a good place for a design doc, actually, a la berick's angularjs->angular work
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13:18 NFPL Miker: Thanks!
14:02 Phillip JBoyer:  When I set these up, I go ahead and choose the printer for Default, Receipt, Label, Mail, and Offline and click Save for each one.  I'll use Mail for the letter size printer.
14:05 Phillip As an experiment, I changed Default, Receipt, Label, Mail and Offline to print to the Kyocera and clicked Apply Changes for each one.  On the screen it's indicating for example letter size paper.
14:06 Phillip But when I test printing, clicking Print, it's printing receipt printer font size on the Kyocera.  It's as if the settings aren't being applied.  If I click Print with dialog, it prints ok.
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14:48 dbs miker: it's probably not good security hygiene that people are replying to the governance mailing list with their scanned signatures attached (the curse of hitting "reply" to a mailing list)?
15:07 miker dbs: indeed, probably not (accepting that we've already done that, a couple months ago...). csharp: do you know if it's possible to excise at least the attachments from some emails in the archive? (ideally before it hits markmail)
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15:38 jeff q
15:38 jeff less you are not.
15:50 csharp miker: markmail receives it via a subscribed member email address, so we'll have to contact them about it
15:55 csharp yeah - already archived there
15:55 csharp I'll look into it
15:56 jeff csharp: once removed from the original archives, you can request markmail remove here: https://markmail.org/docs/removal-policy.xqy
15:56 csharp jeff: cool - I've done this in the past, but it's been a while :-)
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16:48 miker dbs++
16:48 miker csharp++
16:48 miker jeff++
16:49 Bmagic Anyone seen the "unhandled error" Dialog box from the offline xul interface with the single error line "_print_tree" ?
16:50 mmorgan1 Bmagic: I've seen that when the offline printer has not been configured.
16:50 Bmagic That makes sense
16:50 Bmagic nothing you can do about it I suppose? It seems that the library couldn't clear the message
16:50 Bmagic It's too late now to do anything about it, just curious
16:52 mmorgan Bmagic: They can clear the "Print receipt?" checkboxes so printing won't be attempted. They'll need to restart offline, probably, to clear the message.
16:52 Bmagic I see
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17:48 krvmga sometimes in the xul client, looking at a record, the words Record Summary (Add Volumes) (View MARC) in the upper left corner of the screen have a red background. does anyone know why?
17:51 jihpringle krvmga: that indicates that the record is deleted
17:51 jihpringle usually you'll also see " This record has been deleted from the database. We recommend that you remove this title from any lists it may have been added to. " on the OPAC View for the record
17:53 krvmga jihpringle++
17:53 krvmga Thanks!
17:53 jihpringle np :)
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18:31 pinesol_green News from qatests: Testing Success <http://testing.evergreen-ils.org/~live>
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