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IRC log for #evergreen, 2015-12-30

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08:34 tsbere @weather
08:34 pinesol_green tsbere: North Andover, MA :: Overcast :: 23F/-5C | Wind Chill: 16F/-9C | Wednesday: Patchy freezing drizzle possible early. Generally cloudy. High 37F. Winds N at 5 to 10 mph. Wednesday Night: Rain likely. Low 32F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 80%.
08:35 Dyrcona @setweather 01844
08:35 pinesol_green Dyrcona: I have changed dyrcona's weather ID to 01844
08:46 jboyer-isl @weather kind
08:46 pinesol_green jboyer-isl: Kindia, Guinea :: Partly Cloudy :: 72F/22C | Wednesday: Sunshine and clouds mixed. High near 85F. Winds light and variable. Wednesday Night: A few clouds. Low 64F. Winds light and variable. | Updated: 4hrs ago
08:47 jboyer-isl @weather 46204
08:47 pinesol_green jboyer-isl: Indianapolis, IN :: Overcast :: 33F/1C | Wind Chill: 29F/-2C | Wednesday: Mostly cloudy. High 38F. Winds W at 5 to 10 mph. Wednesday Night: Partly cloudy. Low 29F. Winds WNW at 5 to 10 mph. | Updated: 53m ago
08:47 jboyer-isl @setweather 46204
08:47 pinesol_green jboyer-isl: I have changed jboyer-isl's weather ID to 46204
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08:49 Dyrcona The weather in Kindia doesn't sound too bad.
08:52 * Dyrcona considers the tropics.
08:55 Dyrcona Hmm. No Google street view of Kindia.
09:50 * Dyrcona finds what he thinks is a bug in Cronscript.pm in regards to command line options and defaults for nolockfile, but it is likely so obscure, only he would notice it.
09:51 Dyrcona I mean, who else would want to run a script with --no-nolockfile?
09:54 Dyrcona The "bug" is on line 150 of Cronscript.pm.in where it checks for nolockfile being set in opts_clean and default_opts_clean.
09:55 Dyrcona The result is, if the default value is true, there's no way to override that on the command line.
09:59 Dyrcona Looks like that "freezing drizzle" comes in the form of snow.
09:59 Dyrcona @weather 01845
09:59 pinesol_green Dyrcona: North Andover, MA :: Overcast :: 24F/-4C | Wind Chill: 18F/-8C | Wednesday: Patchy freezing drizzle possible early. Cloudy. High 36F. Winds light and variable. Wednesday Night: Some sleet or freezing rain possible early. Occasional light rain. Low 32F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 70%.
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10:16 Dyrcona Well, that's not nice.
10:16 Dyrcona Err... Maybe that's not the right thing to say.
10:17 Dyrcona Never mind me.
10:20 Dyrcona Well, now, that is NOT nice.
10:23 Dyrcona Helps to spell your town correctly. ;)
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12:18 csharp @setweather 30033
12:18 pinesol_green csharp: I have changed csharp's weather ID to 30033
12:18 csharp @weather
12:18 pinesol_green csharp: Decatur, GA :: Rain :: 62F/17C | Wednesday: Thunderstorms during the morning will give way to steady rain this afternoon. High 63F. Winds WNW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 90%. Wednesday Night: A steady rain this evening. Showers continuing overnight. Low 51F. Winds NW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70%.
12:18 berick thunderstorm here too
12:21 csharp yep - it's been pouring every other day here
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12:59 jwoodard @weather
12:59 pinesol_green jwoodard: Aubrey, TX :: Clear :: 47F/8C | Wednesday: Sunshine and a few clouds. High 51F. Winds light and variable. Wednesday Night: Some clouds. Low 33F. Winds light and variable.
13:00 jwoodard I hate cold weather.
13:01 Dyrcona Heh.
13:11 mmorgan @hate printed notices
13:11 pinesol_green mmorgan: The operation succeeded.  mmorgan hates printed notices.
13:14 jeff mmorgan: why the hate?
13:15 mmorgan jeff: seems like it takes forever (for me) to make the simplest change :-(
13:16 mmorgan ... and test it to make sure it's working as intended.
13:20 mmorgan could be that I just don't make changes frequently enough to remember how all the moving parts fit together. Seems like I have to relearn it each time.
13:34 * tsbere rigged it at MVLC so that most of the notices are static, and what isn't is set by library settings and handled automatically by the script
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13:48 RyanLGPL Brent!  Quick question?
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14:24 bshum mmorgan: It's funny, we were just lamenting the pain of print notices today too.
14:25 bshum mmorgan: Do you script yours the legacy (ESI) way?  Or do you use A/T to generate the content?
14:26 bshum That would be a good presentation or talk.  How to setup A/T-based print notices...
14:28 tsbere bshum / mmorgan: For reference, MVLC uses a modified legacy method that outputs PDF and/or CSV files
14:29 * tsbere had once considered making an A/T version of what MVLC currently does, but decided "if it isn't broken why am I 'fixing' it?"
14:30 bshum The extra dependencies for PDF generation always make me nervous
14:31 bshum Or at least the ones that are used by our process.
14:31 bshum When we upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 for our utility server, it started to emit more warnings.
14:31 bshum I just hope it doesn't start error'ing out :)
14:31 bshum In future upgrades I mean
14:31 tsbere We basically have perl to generate the files that PHP parses and turns into output files right now.
14:32 tsbere Because I couldn't make any perl PDF writers work like I wanted to at the time and gave up and went with PHP I already had some experience with getting to work.
14:41 jboyer-isl bshum: as a joke I like to tell myself that I'm going to significantly simplify/rewrite the external part of our A/T based PDF notice generator. As it is though, I think the only constant warning is some unimportant whining about a missing optional .jar library. Does yours complain more/differently?
14:41 bshum jboyer-isl: I think there's some spacing problem with our xsl sheet
14:41 jboyer-isl (Ugh. I suppose if I submitted a talk about it for the conference I'd have to finish it, huh? Not sure about that.)
14:41 bshum So it complains about content driving off the edge or something
14:42 bshum I think I managed to resolve all the .jar weirdness
14:42 bshum But that too drove me nutty once upon a time
14:42 jboyer-isl bshum: Oh, yeah. Happens because of the address sizing stuff I think. I may have gotten one of them to shut up, but since I never saw an issue on "print" I may have stopped caring.
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14:45 * mmorgan had to run away for a bit, reads backscroll
14:46 mmorgan bshum: The content is generated by A/T, then scripts produce the pdf
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14:48 mmorgan It's the pdf side that is annoying me presently.
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15:58 Guest21966 I need help. I am trying to find a new library system for our library and I am interest in Evergreen. But I would like to see how it works. I tried the demo but that only shows what it looks like from the patrons point of view
15:58 Guest21966 How do I see what it looks like from the staffs point of view
16:03 bshum Guest21966: So I think that there is a demo system and a staff client to use for it on one of the community site pages...
16:03 bshum Let me see if I can find it
16:03 bshum Yeah, on http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/​doku.php?id=community_servers
16:04 bshum The 2.8.3 server that ESI demos
16:04 bshum Has a staff client link there
16:04 bshum You can download the application and then try connecting to their demo server.
16:04 bshum Same for the 2.9.1 server from MassLNC
16:04 bshum Assuming they're up and operational I guess...
16:04 * bshum doesn't know
16:05 * bshum isn't checking
16:05 * bshum prepares for the new year by thinking about cookies
16:10 csharp @who is thinking about cookies?
16:10 pinesol_green Bmagic is thinking about cookies.
16:18 bshum @dessert csharp
16:18 * pinesol_green grabs some Vanilla Frosted Donuts with Sprinkles for csharp
16:18 bshum It's not cake, but...
16:19 mmorgan @who wants cake?
16:19 pinesol_green graced wants cake.
16:21 berick @who has cake
16:21 pinesol_green mceraso has cake.
16:21 berick the plot thickens
16:21 mmorgan @who baked the cake?
16:21 pinesol_green Bmagic baked the cake.
16:22 mmorgan Hmm.
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17:04 jwoodard @dnd
17:04 pinesol_green jwoodard: strength:8 dexterity:9 constitution:16 intelligence:8 wisdom:11 charisma:11
17:05 * jwoodard is not pleased with that roll
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17:38 csharp @librarian
17:38 pinesol_green csharp: Management:13, Cataloging:9, Acquisitions:11, Reference:14, Circulation:13, Systems:16, Research:13, Custodial:12
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18:43 jwoodard @librarian
18:43 pinesol_green jwoodard: Management:12, Cataloging:13, Acquisitions:14, Reference:13, Circulation:10, Systems:18, Research:15, Custodial:11
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