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<h1>IRC log for #evergreen, 2015-12-30</h1>
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<td class="time" id="i_221527"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221527">00:06</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221528"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221528">03:05</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221529"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221529">07:25</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221530"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221530">07:35</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221531"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221531">07:58</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221532"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221532">08:01</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221533"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221533">08:24</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221534"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221534">08:32</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221535"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221535">08:34</a></td>
<td style="color: #8da81a" class="nick">tsbere</td>
<td class="msg ">@weather</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221536"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221536">08:34</a></td>
<td style="color: #bb004d" class="nick">pinesol_green</td>
<td class="msg ">tsbere: North Andover, MA :: Overcast :: 23F/-5C | Wind Chill: 16F/-9C | Wednesday: Patchy freezing drizzle possible early. Generally cloudy. High 37F. Winds N at 5 to 10 mph. Wednesday Night: Rain likely. Low 32F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 80%.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221537"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221537">08:35</a></td>
<td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td>
<td class="msg ">@setweather 01844</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221538"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221538">08:35</a></td>
<td style="color: #bb004d" class="nick">pinesol_green</td>
<td class="msg ">Dyrcona: I have changed dyrcona's weather ID to 01844</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221539"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221539">08:46</a></td>
<td style="color: #00c48e" class="nick">jboyer-isl</td>
<td class="msg ">@weather kind</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221540"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221540">08:46</a></td>
<td style="color: #bb004d" class="nick">pinesol_green</td>
<td class="msg ">jboyer-isl: Kindia, Guinea :: Partly Cloudy :: 72F/22C | Wednesday: Sunshine and clouds mixed. High near 85F. Winds light and variable. Wednesday Night: A few clouds. Low 64F. Winds light and variable. | Updated: 4hrs ago</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221541"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221541">08:47</a></td>
<td style="color: #00c48e" class="nick">jboyer-isl</td>
<td class="msg ">@weather 46204</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221542"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221542">08:47</a></td>
<td style="color: #bb004d" class="nick">pinesol_green</td>
<td class="msg ">jboyer-isl: Indianapolis, IN :: Overcast :: 33F/1C | Wind Chill: 29F/-2C | Wednesday: Mostly cloudy. High 38F. Winds W at 5 to 10 mph. Wednesday Night: Partly cloudy. Low 29F. Winds WNW at 5 to 10 mph. | Updated: 53m ago</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221543"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221543">08:47</a></td>
<td style="color: #00c48e" class="nick">jboyer-isl</td>
<td class="msg ">@setweather 46204</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221544"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221544">08:47</a></td>
<td style="color: #bb004d" class="nick">pinesol_green</td>
<td class="msg ">jboyer-isl: I have changed jboyer-isl's weather ID to 46204</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221545"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221545">08:49</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221546"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221546">08:49</a></td>
<td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td>
<td class="msg ">The weather in Kindia doesn't sound too bad.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221547"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221547">08:52</a></td>
<td style="color: #032c28" class="nick">* Dyrcona</td>
<td class="msg act ">considers the tropics.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221548"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221548">08:55</a></td>
<td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td>
<td class="msg ">Hmm. No Google street view of Kindia.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221549"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221549">09:50</a></td>
<td style="color: #032c28" class="nick">* Dyrcona</td>
<td class="msg act ">finds what he thinks is a bug in Cronscript.pm in regards to command line options and defaults for nolockfile, but it is likely so obscure, only he would notice it.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221550"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221550">09:51</a></td>
<td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td>
<td class="msg ">I mean, who else would want to run a script with --no-nolockfile?</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221551"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221551">09:54</a></td>
<td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td>
<td class="msg ">The "bug" is on line 150 of Cronscript.pm.in where it checks for nolockfile being set in opts_clean and default_opts_clean.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221552"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221552">09:55</a></td>
<td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td>
<td class="msg ">The result is, if the default value is true, there's no way to override that on the command line.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221553"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221553">09:59</a></td>
<td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td>
<td class="msg ">Looks like that "freezing drizzle" comes in the form of snow.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221554"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221554">09:59</a></td>
<td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td>
<td class="msg ">@weather 01845</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221555"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221555">09:59</a></td>
<td style="color: #bb004d" class="nick">pinesol_green</td>
<td class="msg ">Dyrcona: North Andover, MA :: Overcast :: 24F/-4C | Wind Chill: 18F/-8C | Wednesday: Patchy freezing drizzle possible early. Cloudy. High 36F. Winds light and variable. Wednesday Night: Some sleet or freezing rain possible early. Occasional light rain. Low 32F. Winds light and variable. Chance of rain 70%.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221556"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221556">10:05</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221557"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221557">10:16</a></td>
<td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td>
<td class="msg ">Well, that's not nice.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221558"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221558">10:16</a></td>
<td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td>
<td class="msg ">Err... Maybe that's not the right thing to say.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221559"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221559">10:17</a></td>
<td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td>
<td class="msg ">Never mind me.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221560"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221560">10:20</a></td>
<td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td>
<td class="msg ">Well, now, that is NOT nice.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221561"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221561">10:23</a></td>
<td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td>
<td class="msg ">Helps to spell your town correctly. ;)</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221562"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221562">10:31</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221563"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221563">10:55</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221565"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221565">11:06</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221566"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221566">11:09</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221567"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221567">11:28</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221568"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221568">11:32</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221569"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221569">11:39</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221570"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221570">11:40</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221571"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221571">11:57</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221572"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221572">11:57</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221573"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221573">12:12</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221574"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221574">12:18</a></td>
<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
<td class="msg ">@setweather 30033</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221575"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221575">12:18</a></td>
<td style="color: #bb004d" class="nick">pinesol_green</td>
<td class="msg ">csharp: I have changed csharp's weather ID to 30033</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221576"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221576">12:18</a></td>
<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
<td class="msg ">@weather</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221577"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221577">12:18</a></td>
<td style="color: #bb004d" class="nick">pinesol_green</td>
<td class="msg ">csharp: Decatur, GA :: Rain :: 62F/17C | Wednesday: Thunderstorms during the morning will give way to steady rain this afternoon. High 63F. Winds WNW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 90%. Wednesday Night: A steady rain this evening. Showers continuing overnight. Low 51F. Winds NW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 70%.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221578"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221578">12:18</a></td>
<td style="color: #3b0069" class="nick">berick</td>
<td class="msg ">thunderstorm here too</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221579"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221579">12:21</a></td>
<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
<td class="msg ">yep - it's been pouring every other day here</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221580"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221580">12:26</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221581"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221581">12:27</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221582"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221582">12:28</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221583"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221583">12:59</a></td>
<td style="color: #007b10" class="nick">jwoodard</td>
<td class="msg ">@weather</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221584"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221584">12:59</a></td>
<td style="color: #bb004d" class="nick">pinesol_green</td>
<td class="msg ">jwoodard: Aubrey, TX :: Clear :: 47F/8C | Wednesday: Sunshine and a few clouds. High 51F. Winds light and variable. Wednesday Night: Some clouds. Low 33F. Winds light and variable.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221585"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221585">13:00</a></td>
<td style="color: #007b10" class="nick">jwoodard</td>
<td class="msg ">I hate cold weather.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221586"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221586">13:01</a></td>
<td style="color: #7d008d" class="nick">Dyrcona</td>
<td class="msg ">Heh.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221587"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221587">13:11</a></td>
<td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td>
<td class="msg ">@hate printed notices</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221588"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221588">13:11</a></td>
<td style="color: #bb004d" class="nick">pinesol_green</td>
<td class="msg ">mmorgan: The operation succeeded. mmorgan hates printed notices.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221589"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221589">13:14</a></td>
<td style="color: #001009" class="nick">jeff</td>
<td class="msg ">mmorgan: why the hate?</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221590"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221590">13:15</a></td>
<td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td>
<td class="msg ">jeff: seems like it takes forever (for me) to make the simplest change :-(</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221591"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221591">13:16</a></td>
<td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td>
<td class="msg ">... and test it to make sure it's working as intended.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221592"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221592">13:20</a></td>
<td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td>
<td class="msg ">could be that I just don't make changes frequently enough to remember how all the moving parts fit together. Seems like I have to relearn it each time.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221593"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221593">13:34</a></td>
<td style="color: #9f5100" class="nick">* tsbere</td>
<td class="msg act ">rigged it at MVLC so that most of the notices are static, and what isn't is set by library settings and handled automatically by the script</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221594"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221594">13:36</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221595"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221595">13:37</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221596"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221596">13:48</a></td>
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<td class="msg ">Brent! Quick question?</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221599"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221599">14:13</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221600"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221600">14:24</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221601"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221601">14:24</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">mmorgan: It's funny, we were just lamenting the pain of print notices today too.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221602"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221602">14:25</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">mmorgan: Do you script yours the legacy (ESI) way? Or do you use A/T to generate the content?</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221603"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221603">14:26</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">That would be a good presentation or talk. How to setup A/T-based print notices...</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221604"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221604">14:28</a></td>
<td style="color: #8da81a" class="nick">tsbere</td>
<td class="msg ">bshum / mmorgan: For reference, MVLC uses a modified legacy method that outputs PDF and/or CSV files</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221605"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221605">14:29</a></td>
<td style="color: #9f5100" class="nick">* tsbere</td>
<td class="msg act ">had once considered making an A/T version of what MVLC currently does, but decided "if it isn't broken why am I 'fixing' it?"</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221606"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221606">14:30</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">The extra dependencies for PDF generation always make me nervous</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221607"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221607">14:31</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">Or at least the ones that are used by our process.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221608"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221608">14:31</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">When we upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 for our utility server, it started to emit more warnings.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221609"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221609">14:31</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">I just hope it doesn't start error'ing out :)</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221610"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221610">14:31</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">In future upgrades I mean</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221611"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221611">14:31</a></td>
<td style="color: #8da81a" class="nick">tsbere</td>
<td class="msg ">We basically have perl to generate the files that PHP parses and turns into output files right now.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221612"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221612">14:32</a></td>
<td style="color: #8da81a" class="nick">tsbere</td>
<td class="msg ">Because I couldn't make any perl PDF writers work like I wanted to at the time and gave up and went with PHP I already had some experience with getting to work.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221613"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221613">14:41</a></td>
<td style="color: #00c48e" class="nick">jboyer-isl</td>
<td class="msg ">bshum: as a joke I like to tell myself that I'm going to significantly simplify/rewrite the external part of our A/T based PDF notice generator. As it is though, I think the only constant warning is some unimportant whining about a missing optional .jar library. Does yours complain more/differently?</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221614"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221614">14:41</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">jboyer-isl: I think there's some spacing problem with our xsl sheet</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221615"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221615">14:41</a></td>
<td style="color: #00c48e" class="nick">jboyer-isl</td>
<td class="msg ">(Ugh. I suppose if I submitted a talk about it for the conference I'd have to finish it, huh? Not sure about that.)</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221616"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221616">14:41</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">So it complains about content driving off the edge or something</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221617"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221617">14:42</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">I think I managed to resolve all the .jar weirdness</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221618"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221618">14:42</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">But that too drove me nutty once upon a time</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221619"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221619">14:42</a></td>
<td style="color: #00c48e" class="nick">jboyer-isl</td>
<td class="msg ">bshum: Oh, yeah. Happens because of the address sizing stuff I think. I may have gotten one of them to shut up, but since I never saw an issue on "print" I may have stopped caring.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221620"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221620">14:44</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221621"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221621">14:45</a></td>
<td style="color: #5f6000" class="nick">* mmorgan</td>
<td class="msg act ">had to run away for a bit, reads backscroll</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221622"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221622">14:46</a></td>
<td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td>
<td class="msg ">bshum: The content is generated by A/T, then scripts produce the pdf</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221623"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221623">14:48</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221624"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221624">14:48</a></td>
<td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td>
<td class="msg ">It's the pdf side that is annoying me presently.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221629"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221629">15:57</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221630"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221630">15:58</a></td>
<td style="color: #000867" class="nick">Guest21966</td>
<td class="msg ">I need help. I am trying to find a new library system for our library and I am interest in Evergreen. But I would like to see how it works. I tried the demo but that only shows what it looks like from the patrons point of view</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221631"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221631">15:58</a></td>
<td style="color: #000867" class="nick">Guest21966</td>
<td class="msg ">How do I see what it looks like from the staffs point of view</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221632"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221632">16:03</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">Guest21966: So I think that there is a demo system and a staff client to use for it on one of the community site pages...</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221633"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221633">16:03</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">Let me see if I can find it</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221634"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221634">16:03</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">Yeah, on <a href="http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=community_servers" title="http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/doku.php?id=community_servers">http://wiki.evergreen-ils.org/​doku.php?id=community_servers</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221635"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221635">16:04</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">The 2.8.3 server that ESI demos</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221636"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221636">16:04</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">Has a staff client link there</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221637"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221637">16:04</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">You can download the application and then try connecting to their demo server.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221638"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221638">16:04</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">Same for the 2.9.1 server from MassLNC</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221639"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221639">16:04</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">Assuming they're up and operational I guess...</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221640"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221640">16:04</a></td>
<td style="color: #483800" class="nick">* bshum</td>
<td class="msg act ">doesn't know</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221641"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221641">16:05</a></td>
<td style="color: #483800" class="nick">* bshum</td>
<td class="msg act ">isn't checking</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221642"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221642">16:05</a></td>
<td style="color: #483800" class="nick">* bshum</td>
<td class="msg act ">prepares for the new year by thinking about cookies</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221643"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221643">16:10</a></td>
<td style="color: #4a1700" class="nick">csharp</td>
<td class="msg ">@who is thinking about cookies?</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221644"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221644">16:10</a></td>
<td style="color: #bb004d" class="nick">pinesol_green</td>
<td class="msg ">Bmagic is thinking about cookies.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221645"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221645">16:18</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">@dessert csharp</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221646"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221646">16:18</a></td>
<td style="color: #bf00b3" class="nick">* pinesol_green</td>
<td class="msg act ">grabs some Vanilla Frosted Donuts with Sprinkles for csharp</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221647"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221647">16:18</a></td>
<td style="color: #536916" class="nick">bshum</td>
<td class="msg ">It's not cake, but...</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221648"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221648">16:19</a></td>
<td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td>
<td class="msg ">@who wants cake?</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221649"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221649">16:19</a></td>
<td style="color: #bb004d" class="nick">pinesol_green</td>
<td class="msg ">graced wants cake.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221650"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221650">16:21</a></td>
<td style="color: #3b0069" class="nick">berick</td>
<td class="msg ">@who has cake</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221651"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221651">16:21</a></td>
<td style="color: #bb004d" class="nick">pinesol_green</td>
<td class="msg ">mceraso has cake.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221652"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221652">16:21</a></td>
<td style="color: #3b0069" class="nick">berick</td>
<td class="msg ">the plot thickens</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221653"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221653">16:21</a></td>
<td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td>
<td class="msg ">@who baked the cake?</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221654"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221654">16:21</a></td>
<td style="color: #bb004d" class="nick">pinesol_green</td>
<td class="msg ">Bmagic baked the cake.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221655"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221655">16:22</a></td>
<td style="color: #00b65f" class="nick">mmorgan</td>
<td class="msg ">Hmm.</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221658"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221658">17:03</a></td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221659"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221659">17:04</a></td>
<td style="color: #007b10" class="nick">jwoodard</td>
<td class="msg ">@dnd</td>
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<td class="time" id="i_221660"><a href="/evergreen/2015-12-30#i_221660">17:04</a></td>
<td style="color: #bb004d" class="nick">pinesol_green</td>
<td class="msg ">jwoodard: strength:8 dexterity:9 constitution:16 intelligence:8 wisdom:11 charisma:11</td>
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<td style="color: #130087" class="nick">* jwoodard</td>
<td class="msg act ">is not pleased with that roll</td>
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